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Post by saintflorian on Sept 27, 2021 7:01:40 GMT -6
Hmmm, cornhole never got a birthday card or anniversary flowers from Jeremy Mc?? either. But, I never wrote a checK over $eason Tix to Troy Athletics either. Guess I'm not Donor Worthy. What or "how much" would you call a DONOR? Here here! I can’t wait to see the answer to your question. Im thinking it goes unanswered here. If you have to ask your not in that category. I donate because of my love of the school. But trust me there are no real elite donors that stand out. I have no idea where my ranking in donation amount is (and don’t care) but I know I’m not in the very top echelon but I get my emails/phone calls returned. Which is alright by me. Every dollar counts. In a perfect world, shouldn’t compare amounts. Need FULL engagement. Maximum participation. Troy Administration has a lot of improvement to engage and get new donors while keeps existing ones.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 27, 2021 7:24:12 GMT -6
Let's be honest... Without Football, Troy at Troy would have closed years ago and whatever they named the Dothan campus... Southeast whatever would probably be some NAIA that competes with Huntingdon and AUM. Football is the advertisement of the school to the world. So if Professor Lefty wants a job to teach communism, coloring books, and safe spaces, then they better get on board. The whole university from the Chancellor to the donor that attends the game with a buddy's ticket and buys a hotdog, better realize that (The HC we don’t speak of) is a cancer and needs to be cut out.
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 27, 2021 7:51:52 GMT -6
Here here! I can’t wait to see the answer to your question. Im thinking it goes unanswered here. If you have to ask your not in that category. I donate because of my love of the school. But trust me there are no real elite donors that stand out. I have no idea where my ranking in donation amount is (and don’t care) but I know I’m not in the very top echelon but I get my emails/phone calls returned. Which is alright by me. Every dollar counts. In a perfect world, shouldn’t compare amounts. Need FULL engagement. Maximum participation. Troy Administration has a lot of improvement to engage and get new donors while keeps existing ones. Guess I’m not a donor. Go Auburn or Bama. Time to move on.
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Post by trojanmatt on Sept 27, 2021 7:57:17 GMT -6
Anyone who buys tickets is a donor! Anyone who attends a game is a donor anyone who buys any Troy apparel is a donor. Anyone who answers a phone call from Troy and buys anything they are selling is a donor! I am a donor and I give what I can but not as much as I would like . I am 52 years old and plan on sticking around for a while but I have plans to donate a substantial amount of money when I die! The administration and athletic department should consider everyone a potential donor! Screw Bama Screw Auburn , I am a Troy Trojan
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Post by cornhole on Sept 27, 2021 8:01:46 GMT -6
Anyone who buys tickets is a donor! Anyone who attends a game is a donor anyone who buys any Troy apparel is a donor. Anyone who answers a phone call from Troy and buys anything they are selling is a donor! I am a donor and I give what I can but not as much as I would like . I am 52 years old and plan on sticking around for a while but I have plans to donate a substantial amount of money when I die! The administration and athletic department should consider everyone a potential donor! Screw Bama Screw Auburn , I am a Troy Trojan Like answer.. cornhole told if he has to ask he not in that "category", whatever.
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Post by trojanmatt on Sept 27, 2021 8:18:04 GMT -6
Let’s recap I trusted the search committee when they hired dip I knew it wasn’t going well three games in first season
Dip portrayed an image that he did not inherit as good of a program as we thought Second year dip blamed Covid After two recruiting classes dip claimed that they were the best recruiting classes we’ve ever had Year 3 is totally on him and we now get to see the product of Dip Against 3 FBS opponents we witnessed what could be the worst display of ( first half ) offensive football in Troy History
We must act and act quickly to stop the damage! No one from the administration takes this message board seriously and that is fine! What you must do is be respectful and emailAd Bj and express your concerns. If you don’t you can’t expect anything to change. I have already sent my email!
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Post by pctrojan16 on Sept 27, 2021 8:20:23 GMT -6
I have kept silent to observe and see how things shake and I cannot be silent anymore. A team is the identity of its Head Coach at any level of sports. This team is wasting so much talent and potential on a man who at times does not even look interested or aware of what is going on. No leadership or accountability at any level, but it starts at the top. If the head man can get away with it why not a coach, GA, player, filmed? It is extremely disheartening to see how we have dipped from a busting G5 to a team that can not beat the bottom of the barrel. I implore B. Jones to take a deep investigative look at the program from the HC to the volunteer equipment manager and see what needs to change. This needs to be a complete overhaul to being the repair of the culture that we have come to love at Troy (Pre CL). If he truly cares about the school and it’s people he needs to find a man who is a perfect fit for Troy, regardless of pedigree or experience. Find a man who embodies the Trojan warrior spirit whether that is a former coach or player who will bring us back to a respectable and competitive level. There is the rub, your putting the program on the back of AD Jones, which is like playing Russian roulette with a six shooter and only one empty chamber. Okay maybe, maybe two empties. Yes because as the Ad he is the Head of the Department as a whole, now his hands may be tied due to people above his pay grade and if it is, then he is as helpless as we are. You missed my entire point of my opinion, not blaming him solely but partially due to his position. The blame rests with the Face and name of the Team CL. He needs to do some soul searching and figure out what is important top him whether it is football, or any thing else. He needs to devote his time and energy to the program, not to extra curriculars, but to the betterment of the entire program as a whole. Only then will he have the complete buy in from his team
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 27, 2021 8:26:03 GMT -6
Anyone who buys tickets is a donor! Anyone who attends a game is a donor anyone who buys any Troy apparel is a donor. Anyone who answers a phone call from Troy and buys anything they are selling is a donor! I am a donor and I give what I can but not as much as I would like . I am 52 years old and plan on sticking around for a while but I have plans to donate a substantial amount of money when I die! The administration and athletic department should consider everyone a potential donor! Screw Bama Screw Auburn , I am a Troy Trojan Like answer.. cornhole told if he has to ask he not in that "category", whatever. LOL
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 27, 2021 8:29:21 GMT -6
There is the rub, your putting the program on the back of AD Jones, which is like playing Russian roulette with a six shooter and only one empty chamber. Okay maybe, maybe two empties. Yes because as the Ad he is the Head of the Department as a whole, now his hands may be tied due to people above his pay grade and if it is, then he is as helpless as we are. You missed my entire point of my opinion, not blaming him solely but partially due to his position. The blame rests with the Face and name of the Team CL. He needs to do some soul searching and figure out what is important top him whether it is football, or any thing else. He needs to devote his time and energy to the program, not to extra curriculars, but to the betterment of the entire program as a whole. Only then will he have the complete buy in from his team CL is gone. Bad hire from start. CL searching for something is a losing proposition. He does not have the capacity. He is not a head coach at this level. One cannot find something that is not there.
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Post by pctrojan16 on Sept 27, 2021 8:32:46 GMT -6
Yes because as the Ad he is the Head of the Department as a whole, now his hands may be tied due to people above his pay grade and if it is, then he is as helpless as we are. You missed my entire point of my opinion, not blaming him solely but partially due to his position. The blame rests with the Face and name of the Team CL. He needs to do some soul searching and figure out what is important top him whether it is football, or any thing else. He needs to devote his time and energy to the program, not to extra curriculars, but to the betterment of the entire program as a whole. Only then will he have the complete buy in from his team CL is gone. Bad hire from start. CL searching for something is a losing proposition. He does not have the capacity. He is not a head coach at this level. One cannot find something that is not there. i agree, now his replacement should be someone who is a great fit for Troy regardless of pedigree or experience. Someone who embodies the Trojan Warrior Spirit and will develop a culture of greatness, idc where or who they are as long as their vision is success
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 27, 2021 8:33:41 GMT -6
Let’s recap I trusted the search committee when they hired dip I knew it wasn’t going well three games in first season Dip portrayed an image that he did not inherit as good of a program as we thought Second year dip blamed Covid After two recruiting classes dip claimed that they were the best recruiting classes we’ve ever had Year 3 is totally on him and we now get to see the product of Dip Against 3 FBS opponents we witnessed what could be the worst display of ( first half ) offensive football in Troy History We must act and act quickly to stop the damage! No one from the administration takes this message board seriously and that is fine! What you must do is be respectful and emailAd Bj and express your concerns. If you don’t you can’t expect anything to change. I have already sent my email! Nothing to disagree with here.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 27, 2021 8:38:32 GMT -6
Let’s recap I trusted the search committee when they hired dip I knew it wasn’t going well three games in first season Dip portrayed an image that he did not inherit as good of a program as we thought Second year dip blamed Covid After two recruiting classes dip claimed that they were the best recruiting classes we’ve ever had Year 3 is totally on him and we now get to see the product of Dip Against 3 FBS opponents we witnessed what could be the worst display of ( first half ) offensive football in Troy History We must act and act quickly to stop the damage! No one from the administration takes this message board seriously and that is fine! What you must do is be respectful and emailAd Bj and express your concerns. If you don’t you can’t expect anything to change. I have already sent my email! Unfortunately the only time Administration takes fans/supporters 100% serious is when they stop buying tickets, stop donating, stop participating. Something I don’t agree with doing (only in the extreme) because the players deserve to be supported
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Post by cornhole on Sept 27, 2021 8:41:21 GMT -6
Let’s recap I trusted the search committee when they hired dip I knew it wasn’t going well three games in first season Dip portrayed an image that he did not inherit as good of a program as we thought Second year dip blamed Covid After two recruiting classes dip claimed that they were the best recruiting classes we’ve ever had Year 3 is totally on him and we now get to see the product of Dip Against 3 FBS opponents we witnessed what could be the worst display of ( first half ) offensive football in Troy History We must act and act quickly to stop the damage! No one from the administration takes this message board seriously and that is fine! What you must do is be respectful and emailAd Bj and express your concerns. If you don’t you can’t expect anything to change. I have already sent my email! Unfortunately the only time Administration takes fans/supporters 100% serious is when they stop buying tickets, stop donating, stop participating. Something I don’t agree with doing (only in the extreme) because the players deserve to be supported Agree 101%
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Post by buzzlightyear on Sept 27, 2021 8:57:46 GMT -6
What do Captain Smith of the Titanic and (The HC we don’t speak of) of The Troy trojans have in common? A) They are both going down it is just a matter of how quick it will happen.
The truth is that fan boards may not be worth much but if anyone reads these they know that the decrease in tickets and support is coming if (The HC we don’t speak of) is let to hang around and make things worse then they are presently. Hemi sent a text that said: "Hello rock bottom" So, with that in mind you kind of think from here on out (The HC we don’t speak of) (who has shown loyalty is not a biggie to him) will begin to dig a lower rock bottom if possible. I for one was willing to give him this year as a possible way to show us that he would not be as distracted and therefore try harder. Maybe he has but we have been shown when you have the demeanor of an undertaker (no offense to a needed profession) is not conducive to inspiring young men or fan bases. Good luck Troy at South Carolina and playing in that venue will inspire our guys to play as hard as they can. The problem is that over on our sideline is a guy that thinks we the fans are after him because we are not as smart or guru level capable. Truth is (The HC we don’t speak of) I despise keyboard coaches but just about anyone on here could do what you have done with the talent you have had each year. Adios dude.................You officially are not welcome by those who will soon let the administration know by their actions that they have ridden your uncle Fester arse too long.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 27, 2021 9:10:40 GMT -6
What do Captain Smith of the Titanic and (The HC we don’t speak of) of The Troy trojans have in common? A) They are both going down it is just a matter of how quick it will happen. The truth is that fan boards may not be worth much but if anyone reads these they know that the decrease in tickets and support is coming if (The HC we don’t speak of) is let to hang around and make things worse then they are presently.  Hemi sent a text that said: "Hello rock bottom" So, with that in mind you kind of think from here on out (The HC we don’t speak of) (who has shown loyalty is not a biggie to him) will begin to dig a lower rock bottom if possible. I for one was willing to give him this year as a possible way to show us that he would not be as distracted and therefore try harder. Maybe he has but we have been shown when you have the demeanor of an undertaker (no offense to a needed profession) is not conducive to inspiring young men or fan bases. Good luck Troy at South Carolina and playing in that venue will inspire our guys to play as hard as they can. The problem is that over on our sideline is a guy that thinks we the fans are after him because we are not as smart or guru level capable. Truth is (The HC we don’t speak of) I despise keyboard coaches but just about anyone on here could do what you have done with the talent you have had each year. Adios dude.................You officially are not welcome by those who will soon let the administration know by their actions that they have ridden your uncle Fester arse too long. If things go down with blowout losses to South Carolina and Coastal you will see a ton of aluminium for Troyâs remaining games.
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Post by Troystet on Sept 27, 2021 9:19:05 GMT -6
Dear Dear Leader and AD,
Please learn from the Neal Brown years and don't just look for the words SEC on the application. Look for the intangibles needed for a HC. They are leadership, personal and family life, player development on and off the field, discipline, organizational skills, attention to detail, coaching success and competitive drive both in himself and in his players.
Signed,
The Entire Trojan Nation
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 27, 2021 9:29:44 GMT -6
Will Jack allow a move to me made midseason? He wouldnât with LB. Extremely different circumstances obviously. LB had done a lot for Troy. (The HC we don’t speak of) hasnât to this point. Time will tell.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 27, 2021 9:34:19 GMT -6
Will Jack allow a move to me made midseason? He wouldnât with LB. Extremely different circumstances obviously. LB had done a lot for Troy. (The HC we don’t speak of) hasnât to this point. Time will tell. A lot of positives and negatives between the choice of firing now versus firing at seasons end. For Troy, money is one of the major drivers. Always interesting
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Post by cornhole on Sept 27, 2021 9:45:30 GMT -6
Dear Dear Leader and AD, Please learn from the Neal Brown years and don't just look for the words SEC on the application. Look for the intangibles needed for a HC. They are leadership, personal and family life, player development on and off the field, discipline, organizational skills, attention to detail, coaching success and competitive drive both in himself and in his players. Signed, The Entire Trojan Nation dam sure sounds llike jon sumrall to me. Surely others fit the same mold.. The guy from James Madison sounds interesting as well. Someone mentioned it's a crap shoot?? put seveal names on a roulette wheel and spin the wheel!
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Post by cornhole on Sept 27, 2021 9:49:12 GMT -6
Will Jack allow a move to me made midseason? He wouldnât with LB. Extremely different circumstances obviously. LB had done a lot for Troy. (The HC we don’t speak of) hasnât to this point. Time will tell. A lot of positives and negatives between the choice of firing now versus firing at seasons end. For Troy, money is one of the major drivers. Always interesting cornhole would have previously NEVER considered change in midseason... but if we're at rock bottom, what's to lose? If it's just $$$, Chancellor needs to consider move to FCS. Depends on the players. (you go figure that!)
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Post by Troystet on Sept 27, 2021 12:44:46 GMT -6
The WORST case scenario is we go 5-7 or 6-6 again and we wait till December to make a decision and GATA and others pick the cream of the crop. Neal leaving after early signing period was a disaster last time because look what they took either out of desperation or outright stupidity. Make it soon, before early signing and get the cream, not left over milk with stinky curds in in it
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Sept 27, 2021 15:21:54 GMT -6
Here's a suggestion: Put up Fire (The HC we don’t speak of) signs during home games. Not saying you have to carry them into the stadium but if they pop up in tailgates it shows the AD the natives are restless.
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Post by cornhole on Sept 27, 2021 16:08:03 GMT -6
The WORST case scenario is we go 5-7 or 6-6 again and we wait till December to make a decision and GATA and others pick the cream of the crop. Neal leaving after early signing period was a disaster last time because look what they took either out of desperation or outright stupidity. Make it soon, before early signing and get the cream, not left over milk with stinky curds in in it 5-7 or 6-6 is a best case win/loss scenario for this edition.
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Post by cornhole on Sept 27, 2021 16:08:49 GMT -6
Dear Dear Leader and AD, Please learn from the Neal Brown years and don't just look for the words SEC on the application. Look for the intangibles needed for a HC. They are leadership, personal and family life, player development on and off the field, discipline, organizational skills, attention to detail, coaching success and competitive drive both in himself and in his players. Signed, The Entire Trojan Nation No one up there reads this message board crap. Please address it to the Chancellor.
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 27, 2021 19:48:22 GMT -6
My understanding is that he had a 3 year contract with an option for the 4th year based on wins! I could be wrong. If it is a 3 year deal maybe there are other options ! Demote him The problem is that he brought on Luke Meadows as the O line coach and OC and we are substantially worse in both catagofoes Four year deal with an option to add a year after the first year. That option was not picked up. It’s just a four year deal now
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