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Post by pcbtrojan on Sept 25, 2021 20:54:32 GMT -6
You’re done. Leave Troy. Thanks for screwing our program.
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Post by Possum on Sept 25, 2021 21:03:22 GMT -6
Won’t happen… until the end of the season, if even then.
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Post by trojanmatt on Sept 25, 2021 22:22:44 GMT -6
I donât think he will be fired this week but after next week could be a different story! I would hope it would happen now To give the players the best shot at competing next week but if he stays and we get rolled he has to go. I am starting a poll. When will (The HC we don’t speak of) be let go! I say next Monday morning 10am eastern standard time
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 26, 2021 0:09:40 GMT -6
I missed tonight's game to attend a UFC party that friends attended that I haven't seen in years. Of course the topics included football and my friends all asked me: "What happened to Troy?" "You guys went from beating LSU and Nebraska to losing to bad teams." I had no answer... I mean I joked and said: "At least we are not FSU."
I miss tailgating with my friends under the oak trees by Hawkins Hall. I miss Troy and my heart is broken when I think about what is happening to the culture of a once great institution. Troy is failing in many more areas than just football. The business school calls the students GEEKS. It's an acronym but it doesn't change the fact that the dictionary word is the opposite of what a Troy graduate should be. There needs to be sweeping changes from the top and through the colleges and athletics department. I am 100% serious when I say I would love to have Neal Brown as chancellor. I believe in his short time on campus, he truly built the wall.
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Post by trojan2003 on Sept 26, 2021 0:23:20 GMT -6
We can’t wait too long. Last time, all the good coaches were not available anymore (Freeze, Drinkwitz, etc) when we started looking around.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Sept 26, 2021 0:55:55 GMT -6
I donât think he will be fired this week but after next week could be a different story! I would hope it would happen now To give the players the best shot at competing next week but if he stays and we get rolled he has to go. I am starting a poll. When will (The HC we don’t speak of) be let go! I say next Monday morning 10am eastern standard time I really hope you're right, but I don't think so. He won't be fired and he won't resign. He'll drag us through to the end of the season, keeping us from getting an early start on an open and free coaching search. I think a better question is when will Brent Jones give the "100% confidence" speech to the press?
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 26, 2021 2:11:24 GMT -6
When is his contract up? If he got a 4 year deal, we could be screwed for another year.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 26, 2021 5:55:43 GMT -6
Another problem is, I donât trust Hawkins and Jones to hire a decent replacement. One is way overdue to retire, one has no experience. Jones had input on the (The HC we don’t speak of) hire. I fear our program sliding into a decade(s) long malice due to wrong hire after wrong hire. Itâs sad. Still on the fence on whether to fire (The HC we don’t speak of) Now or Fire him around Thanksgiving. Both have positives and negatives. But he must go. Giving him a 4th year would a death sentence.
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Post by Troystet on Sept 26, 2021 5:57:31 GMT -6
After having my family attacked on here I stopped posting but being both an alumni and former player I have to say this:
The problems as a whole are a collective of many small problems and no attention to detail. The same problems we are having now are almost identical to the problems during LB's last years. NO DISCIPLINE. When you step back and look you see it. I won't even go into the no discipline off field but list this. I saw the post of the players leaving for the game. I saw 3 different t shirts on the players and they weren't even the same color, some had shorts on, some long pants, some had a track jacket, some did not. This was one of the first things NB corrected. Sometimes they wore pants, polo and blazers, other times warm up suits...but always the same for everyone. The other little things NB did was stuff like helping move students in etc. Developed chemistry and discipline. If you can't even get your players to all wear the same outfit on a bus ride don't expect them to execute a game plan. Discipline builds championship. Chan Gailey, Rick Rhoades, LB early on and NB proved that. Leopard's can't change their spots and (The HC we don’t speak of) has proven now for three years he can't instill discipline and structure into the program. When you can't do it in your personal life, don't expect it in your professional life.
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Post by trojanmatt on Sept 26, 2021 6:26:16 GMT -6
I have just sent Brent an email! I suggest you all do as well!
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Post by Possum on Sept 26, 2021 6:57:25 GMT -6
I have just sent Brent an email! I suggest you all do as well! Probably won’t help, but I like your spirit.
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Post by trojanmatt on Sept 26, 2021 7:01:36 GMT -6
The only other thing I can do is email Dr. Jack after next weeks game And then I will load my car and head north for the game against Georgia Southern and I will support players but I will start a chant! Much like many of the colleges started one about our national president I will start one that says â fire (The HC we don’t speak of)â
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Post by trojanempire on Sept 26, 2021 7:05:14 GMT -6
I have just sent Brent an email! I suggest you all do as well! I wouldn’t even know where to begin. Sometimes words fail me. Sometimes I go too far. Could someone draft a template with a measured description of how we all feel. Then we can flood the AD’s and Chancellor’s in boxes?
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Post by chasin170 on Sept 26, 2021 7:14:35 GMT -6
I’ll always remember HCNB as he was walking with an assistant coach , ask my son.”Tell (assistant coach) what you made this semester in physics .Then he asked him to tell the assistant what he made in it the first semester.Neal knew.Kids know when your not totally committed to YOUR OWN program and culture.Big things are a product of a lot of little things,
Neal had Power T blazers bought for the team and they competed in everything all through the year.
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Post by jagd1305 on Sept 26, 2021 7:46:37 GMT -6
I don’t call for anyone to be fired. But that’s just me. But I do expect a university search committee to know a little bit about what it’s looking for when it does a hire; for any department on campus. In my opinion (and it’s just my opinion which carries no significance) the search committee saw something that just doesn’t exist. Sadly, I think perhaps our current coaching staff just isn’t a good fit for Troy. This problem falls as much on their shoulders as anyone else. Just a few years ago when many of us fans followed Coach Brown and our team to Baton Rouge, we knew we had the capability to beat LSU. There were Troy fans before the game who were taunting LSU fans to stick around after the final horn because Troy was going to kick their tails. Does anyone feel that confidence anymore?
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Sept 26, 2021 8:06:23 GMT -6
Being realistic the earliest (The HC we don’t speak of) will be fired will be Sunday, November 28th one day after the final game of the season against Georgia State. Even if Brent fired (The HC we don’t speak of) today Troy would owe him a big payout but if you wait until the end of the season that payout wouldn't be nearly as big, assuming he still has another year left on his contract.
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Post by Possum on Sept 26, 2021 8:07:05 GMT -6
I don’t call for anyone to be fired. But that’s just me. But I do expect a university search committee to know a little bit about what it’s looking for when it does a hire; for any department on campus. In my opinion (and it’s just my opinion which carries no significance) the search committee saw something that just doesn’t exist. Sadly, I think perhaps our current coaching staff just isn’t a good fit for Troy. This problem falls as much on their shoulders as anyone else. Just a few years ago when many of us fans followed Coach Brown and our team to Baton Rouge, we knew we had the capability to beat LSU. There were Troy fans before the game who were taunting LSU fans to stick around after the final horn because Troy was going to kick their tails. Does anyone feel that confidence anymore? I have more confidence in a snow ball’s chances in Hades…
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Post by trojan2003 on Sept 26, 2021 8:07:44 GMT -6
(The HC we don’t speak of) doesnât care about the program. His plan was to take over Brownâs team and then probably leave for a bigger program after 1-2 seasons. He probably thinks, he is stuck with us (rather than the other way around).
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Post by trojanmatt on Sept 26, 2021 8:15:44 GMT -6
My understanding is that he had a 3 year contract with an option for the 4th year based on wins! I could be wrong. If it is a 3 year deal maybe there are other options ! Demote him The problem is that he brought on Luke Meadows as the O line coach and OC and we are substantially worse in both catagofoes
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Post by Possum on Sept 26, 2021 8:16:39 GMT -6
Where are the folks from last week that said we would go 8-5 with a bowl win?
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Sept 26, 2021 8:30:09 GMT -6
I have just sent Brent an email! I suggest you all do as well! I sent my email this morning. If anyone else plans to send an email to Brent I would say keep it short, don't use any vulgarity, and lay out your case in a rational manner.
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Post by crawlspace13 on Sept 26, 2021 8:48:53 GMT -6
My understanding is that he had a 3 year contract with an option for the 4th year based on wins! I could be wrong. If it is a 3 year deal maybe there are other options ! Demote him The problem is that he brought on Luke Meadows as the O line coach and OC and we are substantially worse in both catagofoes If it's 3 years, fire him tomorrow morning. He hasn't done his job and he's had long enough. A basic change in leadership could do wonders. I don't necessarily mean winning season wonders. But enough to give a spark of hope and clean up some of (The HC we don’t speak of)'s lackadaisical mess just by caring more. There are a couple options on staff for interm HC that are better leaders than (The HC we don’t speak of). Let the OC and DC run their squads with a better-than-(The HC we don’t speak of) overall leader steering the ship temporarily. It can't be worse than it is now.
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Post by trojanraid on Sept 26, 2021 8:53:50 GMT -6
I have just sent Brent an email! I suggest you all do as well! Below is the letter I emailed to Brent Nov. 4th, 2019. I haven't been back since, and won't consider returning until (The HC we don’t speak of) is gone, and the Confucius Institute is gone. Brent Jones, Athletic Director, Troy Athletic Department Brent, I write this letter with considerable disappointment, not in you, but with the current state of our Football program. To say this season has been disappointing is an understatement, and from my viewpoint it has been a tremendous failure. I have not been an advocate from the outset, of the decision to hire Coach (The HC we don’t speak of); First, because I have concerns with the validity of the search process that undertaken, and second; Because shortly after his hiring, Coach (The HC we don’t speak of) was described by players as a âplayersâ coachâ, which to me translated to âlack of disciplineâ. Regardless, this coach was chosen, and I kept an open and hopeful mind going into the season, knowing this was probably the most favorable schedule Troy had seen in over 20 years, and the skill and leadership of the returning players was something that would make the first year of the new coach a much easier transition. Unfortunately, this running start advantage provided to Coach (The HC we don’t speak of), is being squandered. The advantages that made this season one of high expectations, even with a new head coach, were quickly diminished to anxiety and dread with each weekâs next opponent. It was apparent, to me, by halftime of the USM game, the team is poorly coached, top to bottom, and nothing that has occurred since then has changed my opinion, and in fact, has only reinforced it. I feel the football student athletes that came to Troy to play for a top tier G5 program have been cheated, and provided a tremendous disservice, as have the many sponsors and donors supporting the program. I also believe this football season is going to have a long-enduring negative impact on the programâs future, and it is going to be harsh. I graduated from Troy 32 years ago, and then a bit more than 20 years ago began giving back to Troy University with both Academic and Athletic financial giving opportunities. Over the years, either personally, or through business entities, I have provided around $100,000 to the Foundation, the majority going to Athletics. I have been in my Football Suite since it was built, and I have endured the expected ups and down of our sports programs while continuing to watch the University and its Athletic programs grow and impress. But, even in some of the down years of the sports programs, I never entered a season with the complete lack of enthusiasm and dread that I already have for the 2020 Football season. I bring both personal guests and business clients into my Suite as often as I can so they can enjoy good college football, and experience some of the best game day atmosphere a small school can provide. However, with this season, Iâm embarrassed with what they see. In fact, I myself, can no longer find the value in spending hundreds of dollars each game to watch the product being put on display. Further, there are not just financial costs, but thereâs time spent travelling to and from Troy, and time lost that could be spent, and probably should be spent, doing other productive endeavors. So, unfortunately, after 18 years in my Suite, I now need a reason to compel me to come back for a 19th year. The path forward with the current Football Coaching staff, does not compel.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Sept 26, 2021 9:24:12 GMT -6
The only thing more important than firing Chippy is firing Hawkins. This is on him. He wanted control of things he shouldn't and hired AuBarns Thanksgiving leftover scraps. Since then the performance on the field and the performance of the AD's relationship with its donors has been absolute trash. Its embarrassing.
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Post by troyalumni on Sept 26, 2021 9:34:35 GMT -6
I would assume most of us are Troy faithfuls on this board: giving a lot of time, effort and money. Does the Athletic Department look at this board? Are WE and yes, I say WE as a whole on this board considered for our thoughts, observations, recommendations, etc.
To be honest it seems to be a big slap in the face when this whole board is set fire to unhappy Troy folks who want to see (The HC we don’t speak of) out for sometime now, but yet our voice is not heardâ¦boggles my mind. What route needs to be taken?
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