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Post by buzzlightyear on Sept 13, 2021 19:15:36 GMT -6
It is in the football forum because football has an f and then there are two o’s that look a little like the word food and our players eat food and they all had vaccines to get into college. So if we eat food and have had some shots then that word that looks sort of like football. Yep, that is it has to be because there is no other reason
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Post by buzzlightyear on Sept 13, 2021 19:20:09 GMT -6
Or it could be that mandate has man in it and date. Both those things are at or happen at our football games. There are men there and some have dates or may have a date after the football game.
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Post by chasin170 on Sept 13, 2021 19:25:54 GMT -6
I support basic health standards by any administration that statistically help morbidity and mortality of all our citizens.This represents an act of good faith and is available to all.I’ve enjoyed two shots of Moderna and received my booster last week all free of charge. I also enjoy a stick of chewing gum daily and ride on two axles that I know little of the origins of.Im pretty well read on the vaccine and serve in a government regulatory capacity and was appointed by two different republican governors who entrusted me in that capacity,I receive no compensation for my service.Sometimes my country needs me,and I never had to stare at a draft card so the price to help seems pretty small compared to my forefathers.
We don’t know what we don’t know of course but one thing is for certain.
The poison of politics and opinion that has tainted this process on both side of the aisle DOES NOT actually make it inside the syringe.
Let’s do for our nation’s brothers and sisters who are at greatest risk from this pathogen and roll up our sleeve to REDUCE the ravages of this virus.
I think I’ll have a Juicy Fruit
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Sept 13, 2021 19:39:34 GMT -6
The testing and vaccinations during the October 9 game is just something being offered. It's simply a promotion. It's not mandatory or required to enter the stadium.
I say this as someone who is not an advocate of the COVID vaccine, nor am I against it. I think everyone should do what is best for themselves.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Sept 13, 2021 19:44:11 GMT -6
It's a promotion. Nothing in the article indicates that you will have to bring a vaccine card to get in or even submit to a full scale covid test. Both are likely separate from stadium entrance procedure. You make the assumption, but that doesn't matter. Obviously, I am anti-vaccine. I'm not a Dr., but I am a rocket scientist and I know how to read data. It is my opinion, that the vaccines have caused more damage than have helped with covid. Again, it is my opinion, but promoting these vaccines is similar to promoting playing Russian roulette. I'm already boycotting because of Fester and this is another reason for me, based on what I think, to boycott. I'm neither a rocket scientist nor a Dr, but I am a a nurse and in my opinion, your analysis is accurate.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Sept 13, 2021 19:52:40 GMT -6
I'm not "anti-vax", generally speaking. This scenario is different. Also, it isn't AT ALL political or a left/right football for me. I didn't want it when Trump was in office. I don't want it now that Biden is in office. This is coming from someone who had a VERY bad 3 week fight with covid just a month ago and I'm STILL struggling with it long-term. It isn't from some tin-foil hat reasons either, though those of a certain thought paradigm will view ANY skepticism as cooky. First, I fully believe this is a scientifically-manufactured virus in whole or in part. I think the random nature of symptoms and level of contagiousness speaks to that (meaning that I nearly died but my wife never masked up or tried to keep her distance and she never came down with it). You get chicken pox, there's x, y, and z. You get a cold, you'll x,y,z there. You get covid, and it's a Wheel-of-Fortune of possibilities; some are common and some are very individualistic. So I don't believe it came from a food market that just HAPPENED to be basically next door to a high-level biological lab. It's anecdotal but TOO coincidental. I don't believe any government is knowledgeably complicit in trying to steal our freedoms or insert a (The HC we don’t speak of) or anything like that. Not that we are not losing freedoms right and left. I just think that is due to a much more sinister entity and the pawns being played are well-intentioned but unaware of the damage they're inflicting long term. I DO believe that our government and others are simply giving us all their best guess in the vaccine at this point and not telling the world what the world would want to know. Kinda like if there was a nuclear missile or asteroid or and alien craft on our doorstep, the powers that be are going to want to control the chaos, and limit public/private interest contrary to their agenda for the common good as they see it and not lay every card on the table. That's nothing new. They're doing that on a daily basis. I DO understand that the vaccine might provide some level of safeguard but I reserve the right to be skeptical and hesitant even of that as time unfolds and more study grants us more facts than we have currently. I'm ABSOLUTELY suspicious of the government's ability to do something that succeeds other than make war. The track record isn't that steller and don't forget, this was done at a warp speed hurry too. PLENTY of room for error. Think about it. The general public can be skeptical even of buying a 1st generation new car or downloading software and software patches until there's been time for the bugs and kinks to be worked out of it for fear that the patch will do more harm than good and the car will have lemon-like failures and design flaws. This is something we're injecting into our body! Those who have it (available since Dec 2020) have not even had it a year. Put another way, there is less than a YEAR's worth of study regarding the long term physiological effects on the human body of a cocktail that in many ways, if you follow the science, is similar but very unique to the flu shot, chicken pox vaccine, and all of the others that you might have gotten far too long ago to be able to remember. I'm not holding out because I don't trust those frothy-mouthed Democrats trying to take my freedoms. I'm not holding out because I'm in league with the right wing conservatives who want to secede from the union. I hold out because I'm skeptical and believe we are far too arrogant in our thinking that we KNOW all of the science well enough not to blow ourselves up, figuratively speaking. As time unfolds and more becomes known, I'll take my measured response. There is one thing very clear for me and for my wife. We will ONLY...and I mean ONLY take it by choice. It will not be mandated on me. I once lived on a sailboat and we have been very close to writing it all off and sailing down to the Caribbean to find our own little "private paradise" so to speak. It won't be difficult to do for us. I'd hate to be in the shoes of those who may have to choose between livelihood and this vax. Sure you can be tested weekly but it's not just that. It's the vilification and castigation of those of us who dare be skeptical and want to genuinely question. I'll add this about the original post - that viewpoint does not represent me or the VAST MAJORITY of those I know who are holding out. It is slightly cooky and doesn't speak well at all for us, all do respect. You sir, speak wisdom.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Sept 13, 2021 20:07:14 GMT -6
I'm not "anti-vax", generally speaking. This scenario is different. Also, it isn't AT ALL political or a left/right football for me. I didn't want it when Trump was in office. I don't want it now that Biden is in office. This is coming from someone who had a VERY bad 3 week fight with covid just a month ago and I'm STILL struggling with it long-term. It isn't from some tin-foil hat reasons either, though those of a certain thought paradigm will view ANY skepticism as cooky. First, I fully believe this is a scientifically-manufactured virus in whole or in part. I think the random nature of symptoms and level of contagiousness speaks to that (meaning that I nearly died but my wife never masked up or tried to keep her distance and she never came down with it). You get chicken pox, there's x, y, and z. You get a cold, you'll x,y,z there. You get covid, and it's a Wheel-of-Fortune of possibilities; some are common and some are very individualistic. So I don't believe it came from a food market that just HAPPENED to be basically next door to a high-level biological lab. It's anecdotal but TOO coincidental. I don't believe any government is knowledgeably complicit in trying to steal our freedoms or insert a (The HC we don’t speak of) or anything like that. Not that we are not losing freedoms right and left. I just think that is due to a much more sinister entity and the pawns being played are well-intentioned but unaware of the damage they're inflicting long term. I DO believe that our government and others are simply giving us all their best guess in the vaccine at this point and not telling the world what the world would want to know. Kinda like if there was a nuclear missile or asteroid or and alien craft on our doorstep, the powers that be are going to want to control the chaos, and limit public/private interest contrary to their agenda for the common good as they see it and not lay every card on the table. That's nothing new. They're doing that on a daily basis. I DO understand that the vaccine might provide some level of safeguard but I reserve the right to be skeptical and hesitant even of that as time unfolds and more study grants us more facts than we have currently. I'm ABSOLUTELY suspicious of the government's ability to do something that succeeds other than make war. The track record isn't that steller and don't forget, this was done at a warp speed hurry too. PLENTY of room for error. Think about it. The general public can be skeptical even of buying a 1st generation new car or downloading software and software patches until there's been time for the bugs and kinks to be worked out of it for fear that the patch will do more harm than good and the car will have lemon-like failures and design flaws. This is something we're injecting into our body! Those who have it (available since Dec 2020) have not even had it a year. Put another way, there is less than a YEAR's worth of study regarding the long term physiological effects on the human body of a cocktail that in many ways, if you follow the science, is similar but very unique to the flu shot, chicken pox vaccine, and all of the others that you might have gotten far too long ago to be able to remember. I'm not holding out because I don't trust those frothy-mouthed Democrats trying to take my freedoms. I'm not holding out because I'm in league with the right wing conservatives who want to secede from the union. I hold out because I'm skeptical and believe we are far too arrogant in our thinking that we KNOW all of the science well enough not to blow ourselves up, figuratively speaking. As time unfolds and more becomes known, I'll take my measured response. There is one thing very clear for me and for my wife. We will ONLY...and I mean ONLY take it by choice. It will not be mandated on me. I once lived on a sailboat and we have been very close to writing it all off and sailing down to the Caribbean to find our own little "private paradise" so to speak. It won't be difficult to do for us. I'd hate to be in the shoes of those who may have to choose between livelihood and this vax. Sure you can be tested weekly but it's not just that. It's the vilification and castigation of those of us who dare be skeptical and want to genuinely question. I'll add this about the original post - that viewpoint does not represent me or the VAST MAJORITY of those I know who are holding out. It is slightly cooky and doesn't speak well at all for us, all do respect. I think this is a fair view of it.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 13, 2021 20:09:16 GMT -6
This thread needs to die
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 13, 2021 20:25:15 GMT -6
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Post by trojanocean on Sept 13, 2021 20:30:56 GMT -6
It might or might not need to die but it does need to be moved. I, however, did not start it here for the record. LOL
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Post by Mark Gainey on Sept 13, 2021 20:35:30 GMT -6
Just facts.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Sept 13, 2021 21:30:06 GMT -6
Helpful reminder: It only takes a minute to NOT post quotes of quotes of quotes.
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Post by Trojan Warrior on Sept 13, 2021 21:31:09 GMT -6
For what it’s worth, I work in healthcare for one of the largest systems in the country. I didn’t create this forum for this topic. So, let’s move along.
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