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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 13, 2021 11:19:42 GMT -6
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Sept 13, 2021 12:17:56 GMT -6
Is it the COVID test or the voluntary vaccine procedure that bothers you?
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 13, 2021 12:22:09 GMT -6
Is it the COVID test or the voluntary vaccine procedure that bothers you? What part of the article said "voluntary"?
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Sept 13, 2021 12:29:22 GMT -6
Is it the COVID test or the voluntary vaccine procedure that bothers you? What part of the article said "voluntary"? It's a promotion. Nothing in the article indicates that you will have to bring a vaccine card to get in or even submit to a full scale covid test. Both are likely separate from stadium entrance procedure.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 13, 2021 12:35:40 GMT -6
What part of the article said "voluntary"? It's a promotion. Nothing in the article indicates that you will have to bring a vaccine card to get in or even submit to a full scale covid test. Both are likely separate from stadium entrance procedure. You make the assumption, but that doesn't matter. Obviously, I am anti-vaccine. I'm not a Dr., but I am a rocket scientist and I know how to read data. It is my opinion, that the vaccines have caused more damage than have helped with covid. Again, it is my opinion, but promoting these vaccines is similar to promoting playing Russian roulette. I'm already boycotting because of Fester and this is another reason for me, based on what I think, to boycott.
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Sept 13, 2021 12:49:42 GMT -6
It's not like someone is going to jump out of a Bush and give you a shot. ADPH is visiting all of Alabama's college campuses this fall and hold vaccine clinics (for people who want them). And on a side note every person I know that has gotten Covid have all told me the same thing: You don't want it. So protect yourself until this thing blows over.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Sept 13, 2021 12:50:23 GMT -6
I think you left this somewhere.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Sept 13, 2021 12:51:14 GMT -6
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 13, 2021 12:54:55 GMT -6
Oh we are posting links now? Here is just a collection of undeniable proof of vaccine damage and death from the victims themselves. LINK.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Sept 13, 2021 12:55:51 GMT -6
It's not like someone is going to jump out of a Bush and give you a shot. ADPH is visiting all of Alabama's college campuses this fall and hold vaccine clinics (for people who want them). And on a side note every person I know that has gotten Covid have all told me the same thing: You don't want it. So protect yourself until this thing blows over. The symptoms weren't that bad for me, it was just more drawn out. I had mild symptoms for ten days. The first two days were the worst, the rest of it was mostly extreme fatigue. On another note, one of our long time clients, one of which was a client at two different companies I worked for, got it real bad, decided he was going to sleep it off and woke up with very low oxygen levels. He spent ten days in the hospital and died after his organs shut down. I'm not saying that COVID is some kind of "I am Legend" world ending virus, but it can be deadly if not taken seriously.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 13, 2021 12:56:05 GMT -6
That is weak sauce... A Faraday Cage is where it's at!
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Post by foulpolephenom on Sept 13, 2021 13:01:03 GMT -6
Oh we are posting links now? Here is just a collection of undeniable proof of vaccine damage and death from the victims themselves. LINK. Just curious, how are victims that died posting proof?
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Sept 13, 2021 13:03:54 GMT -6
Oh we are posting links now? Here is just a collection of undeniable proof of vaccine damage and death from the victims themselves. LINK. I don't think you understand what "undeniable proof" actually is. No one is going to take you seriously if you post links from extremely shoddy agenda based websites no one has ever heard of. What you posted ins't even data. It's anecdotal accounts of post-shot reactions, posted on twitter. I'm sure some or many of those are accurate, but they in no way represent a large amount of post-shot reactions to the vaccine.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Sept 13, 2021 13:04:17 GMT -6
Oh we are posting links now? Here is just a collection of undeniable proof of vaccine damage and death from the victims themselves. LINK. No thanks. I don't do "Q.'
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 13, 2021 13:20:47 GMT -6
Your equating the CV19 vaccine to a suicide machine ? Thatâs like comparing (The HC we don’t speak of) Lindsay to Nick Saban. Willing to listen to any reasonable argument on either side but at least be to the same stadium.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 13, 2021 13:38:01 GMT -6
Oh we are posting links now? Here is just a collection of undeniable proof of vaccine damage and death from the victims themselves. LINK. Just curious, how are victims that died posting proof? Like this.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Sept 13, 2021 13:44:52 GMT -6
Just curious, how are victims that died posting proof? Like this. That's your proof that the vaccine is deadly?
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Post by Cane Gone Trojan on Sept 13, 2021 13:57:04 GMT -6
It is my opinion that Troy should require all fans in attendance to either have proof of having received the COVID 19 vaccine or proof of a negative COVID 19 test at least 72 hrs prior to kick off. As far as Russian Roulette goes, We are all playing Russian Roulette with the COVID 19 virus. We are all walking machine guns, and most of the time we don't know if were loaded or unloaded. The most scary thing to me though is we don't know how the COVID 19 will effect us as it has ranged from nothing at all to death. I haven't seen the actual data but Im pretty sure the data would show that a higher percentage of people have died after getting the COVID 19/ been hospitalized then people that have received the COVID 19 Vaccine. JMO
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 13, 2021 14:27:24 GMT -6
Like this. That's your proof that the vaccine is deadly? There are others in the link I provided.
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Post by trojanmatt on Sept 13, 2021 15:31:13 GMT -6
Iâll get Vaccinated on the 9 th if and only if (The HC we don’t speak of) resigns!
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 13, 2021 15:40:11 GMT -6
Iâll get Vaccinated on the 9 th if and only if (The HC we don’t speak of) resigns! Iâll come back and bring my wallet if the cheerleaders lead this cheer all game. [a href=" [/a]
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Post by trojanocean on Sept 13, 2021 16:24:35 GMT -6
I'm not "anti-vax", generally speaking. This scenario is different. Also, it isn't AT ALL political or a left/right football for me. I didn't want it when Trump was in office. I don't want it now that Biden is in office. This is coming from someone who had a VERY bad 3 week fight with covid just a month ago and I'm STILL struggling with it long-term.
It isn't from some tin-foil hat reasons either, though those of a certain thought paradigm will view ANY skepticism as cooky. First, I fully believe this is a scientifically-manufactured virus in whole or in part. I think the random nature of symptoms and level of contagiousness speaks to that (meaning that I nearly died but my wife never masked up or tried to keep her distance and she never came down with it). You get chicken pox, there's x, y, and z. You get a cold, you'll x,y,z there. You get covid, and it's a Wheel-of-Fortune of possibilities; some are common and some are very individualistic. So I don't believe it came from a food market that just HAPPENED to be basically next door to a high-level biological lab. It's anecdotal but TOO coincidental.
I don't believe any government is knowledgeably complicit in trying to steal our freedoms or insert a (The HC we don’t speak of) or anything like that. Not that we are not losing freedoms right and left. I just think that is due to a much more sinister entity and the pawns being played are well-intentioned but unaware of the damage they're inflicting long term.
I DO believe that our government and others are simply giving us all their best guess in the vaccine at this point and not telling the world what the world would want to know. Kinda like if there was a nuclear missile or asteroid or and alien craft on our doorstep, the powers that be are going to want to control the chaos, and limit public/private interest contrary to their agenda for the common good as they see it and not lay every card on the table. That's nothing new. They're doing that on a daily basis.
I DO understand that the vaccine might provide some level of safeguard but I reserve the right to be skeptical and hesitant even of that as time unfolds and more study grants us more facts than we have currently. I'm ABSOLUTELY suspicious of the government's ability to do something that succeeds other than make war. The track record isn't that steller and don't forget, this was done at a warp speed hurry too. PLENTY of room for error.
Think about it. The general public can be skeptical even of buying a 1st generation new car or downloading software and software patches until there's been time for the bugs and kinks to be worked out of it for fear that the patch will do more harm than good and the car will have lemon-like failures and design flaws. This is something we're injecting into our body! Those who have it (available since Dec 2020) have not even had it a year. Put another way, there is less than a YEAR's worth of study regarding the long term physiological effects on the human body of a cocktail that in many ways, if you follow the science, is similar but very unique to the flu shot, chicken pox vaccine, and all of the others that you might have gotten far too long ago to be able to remember.
I'm not holding out because I don't trust those frothy-mouthed Democrats trying to take my freedoms. I'm not holding out because I'm in league with the right wing conservatives who want to secede from the union. I hold out because I'm skeptical and believe we are far too arrogant in our thinking that we KNOW all of the science well enough not to blow ourselves up, figuratively speaking. As time unfolds and more becomes known, I'll take my measured response.
There is one thing very clear for me and for my wife. We will ONLY...and I mean ONLY take it by choice. It will not be mandated on me. I once lived on a sailboat and we have been very close to writing it all off and sailing down to the Caribbean to find our own little "private paradise" so to speak. It won't be difficult to do for us. I'd hate to be in the shoes of those who may have to choose between livelihood and this vax. Sure you can be tested weekly but it's not just that. It's the vilification and castigation of those of us who dare be skeptical and want to genuinely question.
I'll add this about the original post - that viewpoint does not represent me or the VAST MAJORITY of those I know who are holding out. It is slightly cooky and doesn't speak well at all for us, all do respect.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Sept 13, 2021 17:02:19 GMT -6
I'm glad that you are on the mend, but I fear that a lesson was not learned. If you concede that the vaccine may provide some safeguard, you rolled the proverbial dice. You believe a conspiracy theory; I don't. Some that believe, as you do, would rather pay for stuff that won't help you and your family than to take a couple of free shots. It really boggles the mind. Trump came to Cullman...said he took it. He recommended folks take it.
I wish you all the best, but these lies are going to get more people dead.
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Post by trojanocean on Sept 13, 2021 19:01:39 GMT -6
I'm glad that you are on the mend, but I fear that a lesson was not learned. If you concede that the vaccine may provide some safeguard, you rolled the proverbial dice. You believe a conspiracy theory; I don't. Some that believe, as you do, would rather pay for stuff that won't help you and your family than to take a couple of free shots. It really boggles the mind. Trump came to Cullman...said he took it. He recommended folks take it. I wish you all the best, but these lies are going to get more people dead. Well respectfully, you don't have a place to make the judgements you are about me or what lessons might be learned. I mean you have ZERO place. Do you understand that??? Secondly, yes I concede the vaccine may provide some safeguard in the short term. Asbestos provided something in the short term until we realized in the long term it was very, very bad for us. Round Up was great up until 2019 and then we discovered it was a severe cause of cancer. No, if you ask me, YOU rolled the proverbial dice. And what boggles the mind is how your particular bias can lead you to an erroneous conclusion. Point to the verbiage in my post where I said I'd rather pay for stuff that won't help. Or would you rather admit your prejudice of my stance led you to spread false information? I don't care what Trump did? Why does that flippin' matter to me? AT ALL!
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Post by cornhole on Sept 13, 2021 19:05:14 GMT -6
WTF does this thread stay in a Troy Football forum?? There's an "Other" General Conversation forum available for this??
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