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Post by TroyFootball05 on Apr 21, 2019 18:32:26 GMT -6
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Apr 21, 2019 19:13:09 GMT -6
I think it's probably Kaleb's job to lose, but as I wrote yesterday, I was very impressed with Gunnar. I know he's young, and this probably isn't his year to take the job, he's only a RS Freshman, but when Kaleb and Sawyer are gone, he'll have at least 2 years to shine. While not impossible for him to win the job, he'd have to be REALLY impressive in fall camp to do so. I think the interesting QB battle will be seen over the next 2 years as we will be grooming/looking for Kaleb/Sawyer's replacement. Watson, Free, and Screws are all impressive and they have 2 years to position themselves as the number 1 guy.
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Post by Troystet on Apr 21, 2019 19:32:55 GMT -6
Play the best qb. No rule states that a true freshman or RS FR can't start at qb. Worked pretty well for Clemson and UCF. This nonsense that because a qb had been here for three years makes him better is nonsense. Play the best at every position...period
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Apr 21, 2019 19:39:28 GMT -6
Play the best qb. No rule states that a true freshman or RS FR can't start at qb. Worked pretty well for Clemson and UCF. This nonsense that because a qb had been here for three years makes him better is nonsense. Play the best at every position...period You're exactly right. If Watson is the best QB and he comes through fall camp and takes the job from Kaleb/Sawyer, that'll be really good. My point was he will have to do that because until somebody takes the job from Kaleb, it's his. We know what Kaleb and Sawyer can do and if Watson takes the job form them, it will be to our benefit. If he's the best of the 3, we will be in very good hands.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Apr 21, 2019 19:55:02 GMT -6
I agree with play the best QB. I'm concerned about the WR squad. Last game or so we had to put some DBs in at WR. I think if we have good pass protection and good targets, then any of our QBs can be successfull.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Apr 21, 2019 20:00:33 GMT -6
I agree with play the best QB. I'm concerned about the WR squad. Last game or so we had to put some DBs in at WR. I think if we have good pass protection and good targets, then any of our QBs can be successfull. Whittimore and Eaford both looked really good yesterday, Whitimore especially. Granted we need more than 2 WR in order to accomplish what we wish to, but I think we'll be ok. The one area I have a question about is deep secondary (CB and Safety). They weren't challenged much yesterday so I didn't get a feel for how strong we are in those positions.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Apr 21, 2019 20:03:39 GMT -6
I agree with play the best QB. I'm concerned about the WR squad. Last game or so we had to put some DBs in at WR. I think if we have good pass protection and good targets, then any of our QBs can be successfull. Whittimore and Eaford both looked really good yesterday, Whitimore especially. Granted we need more than 2 WR in order to accomplish what we wish to, but I think we'll be ok. The one area I have a question about is deep secondary (CB and Safety). They weren't challenged much yesterday so I didn't get a feel for how strong we are in those positions. With Rook, M. Jones, Blace Brown, and Adarius Wesley gone, we are a bit thin back there. We'll see what Brandon Hall is made of for sure.
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Post by trojan2003 on Apr 22, 2019 1:32:44 GMT -6
Kaleb had a great half against GA St and other than that he played against lesser opponents while Sawyer had to face solid SBC competition during the second half of the season. He played with an injury (broken rib) and many top targets were banged up or injured in some of these game. IMO its Sawyer’s job to lose. Anyways, I am not worried at all. Both QBs are talented and experienced.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Apr 22, 2019 5:58:55 GMT -6
Play the best qb. No rule states that a true freshman or RS FR can't start at qb. Worked pretty well for Clemson and UCF. This nonsense that because a qb had been here for three years makes him better is nonsense. Play the best at every position...period Nobody ever made that claim.
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Post by Troystet on Apr 22, 2019 6:24:16 GMT -6
Play the best qb. No rule states that a true freshman or RS FR can't start at qb. Worked pretty well for Clemson and UCF. This nonsense that because a qb had been here for three years makes him better is nonsense. Play the best at every position...period Nobody ever made that claim. Heard posters over and over again say Kaleb gives us the best shot, it's his job etc. Why? Because he started 6 games? If he is the best then he should start but it's not his job because he won the job in 2018. With that mentality UCF starts the 0-12 qb ahead of Milton and Clemson starts the 2017 starter. Dont care what position you earn your start every week...period
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Post by cornhole on Apr 22, 2019 6:52:50 GMT -6
Play the best qb. No rule states that a true freshman or RS FR can't start at qb. Worked pretty well for Clemson and UCF. This nonsense that because a qb had been here for three years makes him better is nonsense. Play the best at every position...period Nobody ever made that claim. Tanner. Jamie. an #3 Levi. Maybe not a claim but someone made an assumption.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Apr 22, 2019 7:28:29 GMT -6
Nobody ever made that claim. Tanner. Jamie. an #3 Levi. Maybe not a claim but someone made an assumption. DT did everything but walk in LB's office to get TNLB on the field. I was just stating the claim was not made in this thread. People get tired of the same old folks hijacking a perfectly good football discussion with negativity and woe is me shat.
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Post by saintflorian on Apr 22, 2019 9:14:26 GMT -6
Tanner. Jamie. an #3 Levi. Maybe not a claim but someone made an assumption. DT did everything but walk in LB's office to get TNLB on the field. I was just stating the claim was not made in this thread. People get tired of the same old folks hijacking a perfectly good football discussion with negativity and woe is me shat. yet your crying in the corn flakes now....🤔
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Post by skeeter on Apr 22, 2019 12:08:52 GMT -6
Man! Man! Man! and we have not even played a down yet. T-Day Hummmmm, which QB looked good, well they all looked good but without the help of the other 10, Troy maybe in trouble. If I stop focusing on the QB,s and look at the big picture, we need help up front or our QB gets killed and we go through all of our backups, so blocking is a must! Our receivers did a ok job but we dropped way to many passes and when this happens you QB confidence slowly goes down. RB's, looked good outside in open space but inside due to blocking was on and off at times. This means the QB will have to throw more, not good for a balance offense. So with that said if we (Coaches) continue to just focus on who is the next big thing at QB the other 10 positions on the field want get coached up. Can we please work together on coaching all position from this massage board so we can get back to that 2017 Sun Belt Conference Caliber Team. Just a little leadership I am trying to throw around. I truly care about all my fellow coaches on this board, checks are in the mail.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Apr 22, 2019 12:50:03 GMT -6
DT did everything but walk in LB's office to get TNLB on the field. I was just stating the claim was not made in this thread. People get tired of the same old folks hijacking a perfectly good football discussion with negativity and woe is me shat. yet your crying in the corn flakes now....🤔 Naw bro. Just trying to get back to the guy $hit and leave this girl mess behind. Bold prediction. A quarterback will start at the quarterback position.
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Post by saintflorian on Apr 22, 2019 13:26:32 GMT -6
yet your crying in the corn flakes now....🤔 Naw bro. Just trying to get back to the guy $hit and leave this girl mess behind. Bold prediction. A quarterback will start at the quarterback position. Ok. The original poster literally asked what was everyone’s opinion. Yes, flame on his opinion but dont flame on him for posting. JMT.
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Post by saintflorian on Apr 22, 2019 13:30:33 GMT -6
I think: Kaleb has the 1st shot. Has proven he can get it done. Give Watson the first look at #2, looks confident, has the gun, mobility and skills. Smith just looked skittish. Has skills, yes he was hurt but just not there. Solid backup at the start of the season. Open competition in Fall. Things change.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Apr 22, 2019 13:35:55 GMT -6
Naw bro. Just trying to get back to the guy $hit and leave this girl mess behind. Bold prediction. A quarterback will start at the quarterback position. Ok. The original poster literally asked what was everyone’s opinion. Yes, flame on his opinion but dont flame on him for posting. JMT. "nonsense that because a qb had been here for three years makes him better is nonsense"
I simply stated nobody ever said "because a qb had been here for three years makes him better". Not one time.
That would be a foolish thing to assume and it seemed like it was just made up out of thin air.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Apr 22, 2019 16:19:34 GMT -6
I am absolutely sure who will be our quarterback next and named as the starter! I am not telling anyone till the beginning of the game against the Campbell Cigarettes. But I am sure that my prediction will be 100% correct
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Post by buzzlightyear on Apr 22, 2019 16:20:41 GMT -6
I will be glad to bet anyone 1 million dollars on that!
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Apr 22, 2019 17:51:47 GMT -6
Ok. The original poster literally asked what was everyone’s opinion. Yes, flame on his opinion but dont flame on him for posting. JMT. "nonsense that because a qb had been here for three years makes him better is nonsense"
I simply stated nobody ever said "because a qb had been here for three years makes him better". Not one time.
That would be a foolish thing to assume and it seemed like it was just made up out of thin air.
I stated it's Kaleb's to lose because I believe he is the best of the group. Not because he's been here the longest or because Neal's staff liked him the best. His mobility changes the entire game. Sawyer has wheels too, but he's not as electric as Kaleb, and doesn't have that X-factor. Not saying other Troy QB's can't turn into a phenom between now and then, but I'd say if Kaleb recovers well from injury he will be very tough to beat both in camp and during the season. Really depends on whether or not his injury has caused him to regress.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Apr 22, 2019 18:36:01 GMT -6
Nobody ever made that claim. Heard posters over and over again say Kaleb gives us the best shot, it's his job etc. Why? Because he started 6 games? If he is the best then he should start but it's not his job because he won the job in 2018. With that mentality UCF starts the 0-12 qb ahead of Milton and Clemson starts the 2017 starter. Dont care what position you earn your start every week...period I am willing to go out on a limb and say that this time last year, the coaching staffs at UCF and Clemson felt their starting QB for 2018 was likely to be the guy that finished in that position in 2017. Heck, Trevor Lawerence wasn't even in the picture in '17 for Clemson. Swinney and Scott Frost took their squads into spring practice and the QB for UCF (can't remember his name) and Lawerence TOOK the job from the presumed starter at those schools. It was the presumed starters' jobs to LOSE, and they did. If you don't think Frost and Swinney had some idea going into spring practice who their QB would be, you're mistaken. That's all I'm saying about Kaleb. I didn't say it was his job, I said it was his job to lose. There is a big difference. He is the presumptive starter at this point. There will be a completion. If he isn't the starter against Campbell, it's because he LOST the position to someone else. Play the best guy @ QB, OL, DB, LB...all positions, but somebody has to start in the #1postion on the depth chart and I think Kaleb will be that guy at QB
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Apr 23, 2019 5:26:31 GMT -6
Heard posters over and over again say Kaleb gives us the best shot, it's his job etc. Why? Because he started 6 games? If he is the best then he should start but it's not his job because he won the job in 2018. With that mentality UCF starts the 0-12 qb ahead of Milton and Clemson starts the 2017 starter. Dont care what position you earn your start every week...period I am willing to go out on a limb and say that this time last year, the coaching staffs at UCF and Clemson felt their starting QB for 2018 was likely to be the guy that finished in that position in 2017. Heck, Trevor Lawerence wasn't even in the picture in '17 for Clemson. Swinney and Scott Frost took their squads into spring practice and the QB for UCF (can't remember his name) and Lawerence TOOK the job from the presumed starter at those schools. It was the presumed starters' jobs to LOSE, and they did. If you don't think Frost and Swinney had some idea going into spring practice who their QB would be, you're mistaken. That's all I'm saying about Kaleb. I didn't say it was his job, I said it was his job to lose. There is a big difference. He is the presumptive starter at this point. There will be a completion. If he isn't the starter against Campbell, it's because he LOST the position to someone else. Play the best guy @ QB, OL, DB, LB...all positions, but somebody has to start in the #1postion on the depth chart and I think Kaleb will be that guy at QB *Smith <---- Fixed it for you.
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Post by cornhole on Apr 23, 2019 9:28:37 GMT -6
I am willing to go out on a limb and say that this time last year, the coaching staffs at UCF and Clemson felt their starting QB for 2018 was likely to be the guy that finished in that position in 2017. Heck, Trevor Lawerence wasn't even in the picture in '17 for Clemson. Swinney and Scott Frost took their squads into spring practice and the QB for UCF (can't remember his name) and Lawerence TOOK the job from the presumed starter at those schools. It was the presumed starters' jobs to LOSE, and they did. If you don't think Frost and Swinney had some idea going into spring practice who their QB would be, you're mistaken. That's all I'm saying about Kaleb. I didn't say it was his job, I said it was his job to lose. There is a big difference. He is the presumptive starter at this point. There will be a completion. If he isn't the starter against Campbell, it's because he LOST the position to someone else. Play the best guy @ QB, OL, DB, LB...all positions, but somebody has to start in the #1postion on the depth chart and I think Kaleb will be that guy at QB *Smith <---- Fixed it for you. That's bold. I doubt if (The HC we don’t speak of) even knows at this point.
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Post by peewee26 on Apr 24, 2019 15:44:17 GMT -6
Since we opinions are like ____ (everyone has one & they all stink)... JK. There isn’t a battle for #1... if Kaleb stays healthy, he’ll start. Brings much more to the table. The “battle” will be #2.
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