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Post by chattvalleytrojan on May 24, 2017 12:31:35 GMT -6
Any new news about a start time for tomorrow? Also about a format update?
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Post by Mr E 205 Legion on May 24, 2017 16:06:25 GMT -6
Any new news about a start time for tomorrow? Also about a format update? "Considering field conditions, the amount of rainfall over the past few days and forecasted into the overnight hours, it was determined that the single elimination format was the only option that provided the best opportunity for the tournament to be fully completed and decided on the field." sunbeltsports.org/news/2017/5/23/BB_0523172434.aspx
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Post by chattvalleytrojan on May 24, 2017 16:36:14 GMT -6
Any new news about a start time for tomorrow? Also about a format update? "Considering field conditions, the amount of rainfall over the past few days and forecasted into the overnight hours, it was determined that the single elimination format was the only option that provided the best opportunity for the tournament to be fully completed and decided on the field." sunbeltsports.org/news/2017/5/23/BB_0523172434.aspxI saw this earlier but forgot to post. I'm still not sold on the single elimination format.
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Post by troy79 on May 25, 2017 11:47:54 GMT -6
Amazing that if you win 3 games, you make it to the NCAA's. Having the first game Friday morning could be a blessing as it will allow the most time to rest between games 1 and game 2 in the tournament. We need to accept the cards we've been dealt and go out to sweep a 3 game series this weekend!!!
Go TROY!
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Post by chattvalleytrojan on May 25, 2017 13:33:28 GMT -6
Amazing that if you win 3 games, you make it to the NCAA's. Having the first game Friday morning could be a blessing as it will allow the most time to rest between games 1 and game 2 in the tournament. We need to accept the cards we've been dealt and go out to sweep a 3 game series this weekend!!! Go TROY! That's true. We can win the whole thing.
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Post by LAZebra on May 25, 2017 16:14:00 GMT -6
Ark St. beat GA. St. 21-4 in 7 innings in game one. Don't really care for either team, but probably dislike the Ga. St. baseball fans more than any others in the conference.
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Post by sballalumni2 on May 26, 2017 8:47:47 GMT -6
This is the first time I have watched Troy baseball this year and they look terrible. What happened to this team? Injuries?
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on May 26, 2017 9:40:04 GMT -6
This is the first time I have watched Troy baseball this year and they look terrible. What happened to this team? Injuries? One injury to Joey Denison, but some players stepped up to fill in for him. Jackson Cofer did a great job taking his spot. Other than that, they were just not consistent. It's now 7 straight losses for Troy in the SBC Tournament. Maybe Coach Smartt can recruit some better pitchers and some better 3-spot/4-spot hitters, because that part of the hitting lineup was weak this year.
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Post by Troystet on May 26, 2017 11:41:55 GMT -6
South and ULL have left us in the dust in two sports...Baseball and softball and every season the gap grows wider. Something has to change
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Post by Hemi Man on May 26, 2017 12:40:34 GMT -6
This is the first time I have watched Troy baseball this year and they look terrible. What happened to this team? Injuries? One injury to Joey Denison, but some players stepped up to fill in for him. Jackson Cofer did a great job taking his spot. Other than that, they were just not consistent. It's now 7 straight losses for Troy in the SBC Tournament. Maybe Coach Smartt can recruit some better pitchers and some better 3-spot/4-spot hitters, because that part of the hitting lineup was weak this year. So you think a guy that hit .216 started 8 games and played in 20 did a great job replacing Denison? Really?
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on May 26, 2017 13:06:36 GMT -6
One injury to Joey Denison, but some players stepped up to fill in for him. Jackson Cofer did a great job taking his spot. Other than that, they were just not consistent. It's now 7 straight losses for Troy in the SBC Tournament. Maybe Coach Smartt can recruit some better pitchers and some better 3-spot/4-spot hitters, because that part of the hitting lineup was weak this year. So you think a guy that hit .216 started 8 games and played in 20 did a great job replacing Denison? Really? Denison was hitting just .232 in 17 games played. He also had just 9 RBI and had 6 hits in 56 at-bats. He had 0 home runs. Sure, Cofer hit .216 in 20 games played... but he had 11 RBI and had 8 hits in only 36 at-bats compared to Denison. He also had 2 home runs. Oh, and he had the walk-off home run to give Troy the win over ULM. And he made the game winning hit in extra innings against Alabama State. And he blasted the three-run home run against Auburn that broke a tie-game and lifted Troy to win that game. So I don't know Hemi, you tell me if he did a good job replacing Denison or not.
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Post by Troystet on May 26, 2017 13:30:32 GMT -6
What happened to Reid Long? I see he is playing at Faulkner. He was arguably one of our best players, What happened?
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Post by Hemi Man on May 26, 2017 13:38:23 GMT -6
So you think a guy that hit .216 started 8 games and played in 20 did a great job replacing Denison? Really? Denison was hitting just .232 in 17 games played. He also had just 9 RBI and had 6 hits in 56 at-bats. He had 0 home runs. Sure, Cofer hit .216 in 20 games played... but he had 11 RBI and had 8 hits in only 36 at-bats compared to Denison. He also had 2 home runs. Oh, and he had the walk-off home run to give Troy the win over ULM. And he made the game winning hit in extra innings against Alabama State. And he blasted the three-run home run against Auburn that broke a tie-game and lifted Troy to win that game. So I don't know Hemi, you tell me if he did a good job replacing Denison or not. No doubt Cofer had some clutch hits. He was hitting around .174 when he hit the walk off versus ULM. Now you've changed it to he was a good replacement. Initially you said great. Either way Cofer is 40+ points below the team batting average. He may be a great player but the numbers aren't telling that story right now. Hopefully you will get to go to a game one day and see for yourself.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on May 26, 2017 14:16:43 GMT -6
What happened to Reid Long? I see he is playing at Faulkner. He was arguably one of our best players, What happened? Long was dismissed last year for violation of team rules. It is not necessary to get in the details, but he had to go. Hope he does well at Faulkner.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on May 26, 2017 14:24:57 GMT -6
As for Denison, he slashed .322/.398/.495 in 2016 with seven homers and 37 RBIs in 2016.
Don't you think his lackluster start to 2017 could've been associated with the wrist injury that ultimately ended his season? The wrist is one of the most vital parts of a baseball player's swing. We all know how great Freddie Freeman is, but when he hurt his wrist in 2015 he wasn't the player he was in the season prior or in the years after. Injuries are part of the game, and Cofer did a serviceable as a replacement-level guy. But that is what he is. Not an everyday player.
however, no one on the roster can replace the production and influence of a healthy Joey Denison.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on May 26, 2017 14:32:40 GMT -6
This is the first time I have watched Troy baseball this year and they look terrible. What happened to this team? Injuries? One injury to Joey Denison, but some players stepped up to fill in for him. Jackson Cofer did a great job taking his spot. Other than that, they were just not consistent. It's now 7 straight losses for Troy in the SBC Tournament. Maybe Coach Smartt can recruit some better pitchers and some better 3-spot/4-spot hitters, because that part of the hitting lineup was weak this year. Justin Friend and Trevor Davis aren't the guys you look to have in the 3/4 holes for the bulk of the year, but they did an admirable job. Friend batted .274, and Davis was a little more than .300. Ideally, Friend would've been the cleanup man with Davis settling in the five or six hole. However, with the aforementioned injury to Denison, the whole lineup had to be shifted around. The biggest issue for the 2017 Trojans was the lack of dependable weekend starter. Crane was a fantastic revelation during the year, but everyone else listed as a starter had an ERA over 4. That's just not gonna cut it.
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Post by Troystet on May 26, 2017 14:51:06 GMT -6
As for Denison, he slashed .322/.398/.495 in 2016 with seven homers and 37 RBIs in 2016. Don't you think his lackluster start to 2017 could've been associated with the wrist injury that ultimately ended his season? The wrist is one of the most vital parts of a baseball player's swing. We all know how great Freddie Freeman is, but when he hurt his wrist in 2015 he wasn't the player he was in the season prior or in the years after. Injuries are part of the game, and Cofer did a serviceable as a replacement-level guy. But that is what he is. Not an everyday player. however, no one on the roster can replace the production and influence of a healthy Joey Denison. Any chance he gets a medical hardship redshirt?
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on May 26, 2017 14:54:39 GMT -6
No doubt Cofer had some clutch hits. He was hitting around .174 when he hit the walk off versus ULM. Now you've changed it to he was a good replacement. Initially you said great. Either way Cofer is 40+ points below the team batting average. He may be a great player but the numbers aren't telling that story right now. Hopefully you will get to go to a game one day and see for yourself. You're reaching hard by pointing out that I used the word "good" instead of "great." Nevertheless, Cofer was "great" IMO. Out of 14 games, Denison went hitless in 8 of them. Likely because of his nagging injury, he never really had the same form he had the year before or when he was playing in the New England Summer League before the 2017 season started. Who else, in your opinion, could've done a better job than Cofer as a sub/replacement? John Tatum? TJ Binder? Mack Hathcock? None of them had as good of stats or batting average as Cofer. As for Denison, he slashed .322/.398/.495 in 2016 with seven homers and 37 RBIs in 2016. Don't you think his lackluster start to 2017 could've been associated with the wrist injury that ultimately ended his season? The wrist is one of the most vital parts of a baseball player's swing. We all know how great Freddie Freeman is, but when he hurt his wrist in 2015 he wasn't the player he was in the season prior or in the years after. Injuries are part of the game, and Cofer did a serviceable as a replacement-level guy. But that is what he is. Not an everyday player. however, no one on the roster can replace the production and influence of a healthy Joey Denison. I'm not saying Denison wasn't a good player. He was phenomenal his junior year. But it was apparent he wasn't the same this year, as you mentioned, likely because of his wrist injury. I agree with you that Cofer did a serviceable job as a replacement. Try dumbing that down for Hemi though. I don't expect a backup guy to come in and hit .300. He did great stepping up and filling that role, even though the senior leadership of Denison was lost.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on May 26, 2017 14:57:07 GMT -6
One injury to Joey Denison, but some players stepped up to fill in for him. Jackson Cofer did a great job taking his spot. Other than that, they were just not consistent. It's now 7 straight losses for Troy in the SBC Tournament. Maybe Coach Smartt can recruit some better pitchers and some better 3-spot/4-spot hitters, because that part of the hitting lineup was weak this year. Justin Friend and Trevor Davis aren't the guys you look to have in the 3/4 holes for the bulk of the year, but they did an admirable job. Friend batted .274, and Davis was a little more than .300. Ideally, Friend would've been the cleanup man with Davis settling in the five or six hole. However, with the aforementioned injury to Denison, the whole lineup had to be shifted around. The biggest issue for the 2017 Trojans was the lack of dependable weekend starter. Crane was a fantastic revelation during the year, but everyone else listed as a starter had an ERA over 4. That's just not gonna cut it. Hm... I actually find myself agreeing with one of your posts.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on May 26, 2017 15:07:40 GMT -6
As for Denison, he slashed .322/.398/.495 in 2016 with seven homers and 37 RBIs in 2016. Don't you think his lackluster start to 2017 could've been associated with the wrist injury that ultimately ended his season? The wrist is one of the most vital parts of a baseball player's swing. We all know how great Freddie Freeman is, but when he hurt his wrist in 2015 he wasn't the player he was in the season prior or in the years after. Injuries are part of the game, and Cofer did a serviceable as a replacement-level guy. But that is what he is. Not an everyday player. however, no one on the roster can replace the production and influence of a healthy Joey Denison. Any chance he gets a medical hardship redshirt? Yes. Denison applied for and received a medical redshirt and has one more year of eligibility.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on May 26, 2017 15:11:42 GMT -6
No doubt Cofer had some clutch hits. He was hitting around .174 when he hit the walk off versus ULM. Now you've changed it to he was a good replacement. Initially you said great. Either way Cofer is 40+ points below the team batting average. He may be a great player but the numbers aren't telling that story right now. Hopefully you will get to go to a game one day and see for yourself. You're reaching hard by pointing out that I used the word "good" instead of "great." Nevertheless, Cofer was "great" IMO. Out of 14 games, Denison went hitless in 8 of them. Likely because of his nagging injury, he never really had the same form he had the year before or when he was playing in the New England Summer League before the 2017 season started. Who else, in your opinion, could've done a better job than Cofer as a sub/replacement? John Tatum? TJ Binder? Mack Hathcock? None of them had as good of stats or batting average as Cofer. As for Denison, he slashed .322/.398/.495 in 2016 with seven homers and 37 RBIs in 2016. Don't you think his lackluster start to 2017 could've been associated with the wrist injury that ultimately ended his season? The wrist is one of the most vital parts of a baseball player's swing. We all know how great Freddie Freeman is, but when he hurt his wrist in 2015 he wasn't the player he was in the season prior or in the years after. Injuries are part of the game, and Cofer did a serviceable as a replacement-level guy. But that is what he is. Not an everyday player. however, no one on the roster can replace the production and influence of a healthy Joey Denison. I'm not saying Denison wasn't a good player. He was phenomenal his junior year. But it was apparent he wasn't the same this year, as you mentioned, likely because of his wrist injury. I agree with you that Cofer did a serviceable job as a replacement. Try dumbing that down for Hemi though. I don't expect a backup guy to come in and hit .300. He did great stepping up and filling that role, even though the senior leadership of Denison was lost. No. Your original post said Cofer did a great job. He didn't. He was a replacement-level player who served as a warm body in the lineup. Great would have been coming off the bench and stroking .320 with 10 homers. He was average to slightly below. For someone who hates mediocrity in coaches (your words), you sure did defend it hard pertaining to one guy.
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Post by saintflorian on May 26, 2017 15:28:14 GMT -6
No doubt Cofer had some clutch hits. He was hitting around .174 when he hit the walk off versus ULM. Now you've changed it to he was a good replacement. Initially you said great. Either way Cofer is 40+ points below the team batting average. He may be a great player but the numbers aren't telling that story right now. Hopefully you will get to go to a game one day and see for yourself. You're reaching hard by pointing out that I used the word "good" instead of "great." Nevertheless, Cofer was "great" IMO. Out of 14 games, Denison went hitless in 8 of them. Likely because of his nagging injury, he never really had the same form he had the year before or when he was playing in the New England Summer League before the 2017 season started. Who else, in your opinion, could've done a better job than Cofer as a sub/replacement? John Tatum? TJ Binder? Mack Hathcock? None of them had as good of stats or batting average as Cofer. As for Denison, he slashed .322/.398/.495 in 2016 with seven homers and 37 RBIs in 2016. Don't you think his lackluster start to 2017 could've been associated with the wrist injury that ultimately ended his season? The wrist is one of the most vital parts of a baseball player's swing. We all know how great Freddie Freeman is, but when he hurt his wrist in 2015 he wasn't the player he was in the season prior or in the years after. Injuries are part of the game, and Cofer did a serviceable as a replacement-level guy. But that is what he is. Not an everyday player. however, no one on the roster can replace the production and influence of a healthy Joey Denison. I'm not saying Denison wasn't a good player. He was phenomenal his junior year. But it was apparent he wasn't the same this year, as you mentioned, likely because of his wrist injury. I agree with you that Cofer did a serviceable job as a replacement. Try dumbing that down for Hemi though. I don't expect a backup guy to come in and hit .300. He did great stepping up and filling that role, even though the senior leadership of Denison was lost. Cardinal, you are not going to win arguing with these people, they will hate you and counter what ever you say unless you agree with whatever left wing logic they come up with 100%. Example: parsing the adjective great vs. good. Yes it was weak. But on a side, they actually called out a player negatively on this board, something they say they never would do. Most would call that being a hypocrite.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on May 26, 2017 15:38:30 GMT -6
You're reaching hard by pointing out that I used the word "good" instead of "great." Nevertheless, Cofer was "great" IMO. Out of 14 games, Denison went hitless in 8 of them. Likely because of his nagging injury, he never really had the same form he had the year before or when he was playing in the New England Summer League before the 2017 season started. Who else, in your opinion, could've done a better job than Cofer as a sub/replacement? John Tatum? TJ Binder? Mack Hathcock? None of them had as good of stats or batting average as Cofer. I'm not saying Denison wasn't a good player. He was phenomenal his junior year. But it was apparent he wasn't the same this year, as you mentioned, likely because of his wrist injury. I agree with you that Cofer did a serviceable job as a replacement. Try dumbing that down for Hemi though. I don't expect a backup guy to come in and hit .300. He did great stepping up and filling that role, even though the senior leadership of Denison was lost. No. Your original post said Cofer did a great job. He didn't. He was a replacement-level player who served as a warm body in the lineup. Great would have been coming off the bench and stroking .320 with 10 homers. He was average to slightly below. For someone who hates mediocrity in coaches (your words), you sure did defend it hard pertaining to one guy. So Cofer basically helped win three games for the team and was the best replacement, statistically, compared to other backups on the team... The first three games he started he batted .300, .308, and .278. But he was a warm body in the lineup? Your expectations of a "great" backup are irrational. You expect a backup to come in and hit .320 with 10 homers? Heck, there was only one person on the entire team that hit above .320, and there was no one that came close to hitting 10 homers. So with your logic, you might as well say everyone on the team was mediocre. You make no sense. For a guy that came in halfway through the season that had never played D1 baseball before, yeah, I'd say he did a great job. Coach Smartt would probably tell you the same. On a side note... I like how I can say a coach is mediocre in previous posts, but apparently it's okay for you to call a player mediocre? There seems to be a double standard here...
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Post by TheAmericanDream on May 26, 2017 17:16:16 GMT -6
You two make me have less faith in the human race.
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Post by cornhole on May 26, 2017 17:50:45 GMT -6
You two make me have less faith in the human race. Reading this board for too many years, I have less faith in "Fans".
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