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Sept 11, 2023 7:16:13 GMT -6
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Post by trojanfan251 on Sept 11, 2023 7:16:13 GMT -6
This game gives me 2022 Marshall game vibes. This defense is going to realize they can’t rely on our Terrible Offensive coordinator or our QB with cement cleats who don’t know how to move around in a pocket. Might have to turn the goose loose if JMU gets up by two scores. Why do you guys have such disrespect for Jon Sumrall? no disrespect for who will go down as the best coach in school history. More of a frustration and my own opinion about our offense. Sumrall is a defensive guy and if we go 13-1 on the season averaging 15 points a game while only giving up 13 I’ll be happy as hell. But let’s be honest you could hear the frustration in the post game interview. Defense isn’t what’s going to loose us games. It will be offense. Besides it want matter come Sunday When Troy is sitting at 2-1 and top of the west. We will all be happy men again.
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Sept 11, 2023 7:21:53 GMT -6
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 11, 2023 7:21:53 GMT -6
2 weeks in, clearly time to fire everyone and hire the message board coaches. Y'all started the gofundme for a buyout yet? Correction: 2nd year in. And not everyone, just the guy that clearly is a very mediocre coordinator. BTW, when good coordinators excel at places at Troy, what happens, they get hired away. See recent examples. Still remember when we had very mediocre to bad coordinators, people on this board, you know fans and supporters, saw it plain as day. And others came on here repeatedly defending them. A lot of examples, Rowell and Fleetwood the biggest examples. And what they doing now ?
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Post by cornhole on Sept 11, 2023 8:08:03 GMT -6
I would like to see some creativity on offense. There hasn't been a whole lot of it through these first two games. Those run-up-the-middle 4th down plays against Kansas State could've been... better. Troy sold out on the run, and Kansas State completely loaded the box. A sweep play would've been more interesting. Wuz there. I don't recall anything around the ends working well either FYI. That was one stout defense at KS. They recorded 5 TFL and 2 Sacks. Wildcat D-Backs had our receivers covered like shrink-wrap.
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Post by trojanocean on Sept 11, 2023 8:18:57 GMT -6
Why do you guys have such disrespect for Jon Sumrall? Is this a serious question? It's a totally serious question. Jon Sumrall, perceived to be frustrated or not, is the guy in charge and HE has chosen our OC...and our quarterback...for that matter. You guys trash on his decisions right and left. That's an objective fact. You either believe and trust in his decision and vision or you don't. He's the head coach and it all begins and ends with him. So yeah totally serious.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Sept 11, 2023 9:21:42 GMT -6
That OC has a record of 13-3 right now.
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Sept 11, 2023 9:33:45 GMT -6
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 11, 2023 9:33:45 GMT -6
Is this a serious question? It's a totally serious question. Jon Sumrall, perceived to be frustrated or not, is the guy in charge and HE has chosen our OC...and our quarterback...for that matter. You guys trash on his decisions right and left. That's an objective fact. You either believe and trust in his decision and vision or you don't. He's the head coach and it all begins and ends with him.  So yeah totally serious. (The HC we don’t speak of) Ch!p Lindsay was the Head Coach of the Troy Trojans for three years. Did YOU believe and trust in his decision and vision or did YOU not at anytime question him? According to your rationale: He was the head coach and it all begins and ends with him. Did you blindly follow with with any doubt or questions ? I bet we can go back to your previous posts and find out. No coach is infallible. Every coach makes hiring mistakes. Facts. The great and legendary Larry B. did. Doesn’t make him not the legend, just makes him human. Our offense is anaemic, dull and unproductive as a whole. This is a college football message board. People come to comment, talk and discuss their opinions about the program they love. Get with that. I will not blindly follow any man but will say Jon Sumrall is a good coach, will get this straight. And it will not be with the Crap offense. Bet it.
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Sept 11, 2023 9:42:27 GMT -6
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 11, 2023 9:42:27 GMT -6
That OC has a record of 13-3 right now. with our defense last year the OC of the local under-10 pee wee team would be 13-3 also. Didnt our DC get hired off the staff last year ? Wonder if our OC got any calls ? I will say this finally. I Hope Craddock proves his metal and we become the best offense in the nation ! I will gladly eat crow every day of the week in exchange for Troy being the best offense around. But history just says differently. Oh well. I’ll be their cheering regardless
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Sept 11, 2023 10:30:24 GMT -6
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Post by trojanfan251 on Sept 11, 2023 10:30:24 GMT -6
That OC has a record of 13-3 right now. with our defense last year the OC of the local under-10 pee wee team would be 13-3 also. Didnt our DC get hired off the staff last year ? Wonder if our OC got any calls ? I will say this finally. I Hope Craddock proves his metal and we become the best offense in the nation ! I will gladly eat crow every day of the week in exchange for Troy being the best offense around. But history just says differently. Oh well. I’ll be there cheering regardless exactly I will express my frustration as a fan and give my opinions. And I hope Gunner and Craddock and the Offense prove me wrong, because that means we doing somthing good. If I’m right then that means ugh oh. So I rather be proved wrong and eat crow than be right.
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Sept 11, 2023 10:59:57 GMT -6
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 11, 2023 10:59:57 GMT -6
This game gives me 2022 Marshall game vibes. This defense is going to realize they can’t rely on our Terrible Offensive coordinator or our QB with cement cleats who don’t know how to move around in a pocket. Might have to turn the goose loose if JMU gets up by two scores. Why do you guys have such disrespect for Jon Sumrall? Most fit into the Sumrall isn’t ready when he was hired group. They had to struggle through a 12 win season and hoping with all hope for Troy to fail so they can tell everyone they were right.
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Sept 11, 2023 11:28:40 GMT -6
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 11, 2023 11:28:40 GMT -6
with our defense last year the OC of the local under-10 pee wee team would be 13-3 also. Didnt our DC get hired off the staff last year ? Wonder if our OC got any calls ? I will say this finally. I Hope Craddock proves his metal and we become the best offense in the nation ! I will gladly eat crow every day of the week in exchange for Troy being the best offense around. But history just says differently. Oh well. I’ll be there cheering regardless exactly I will express my frustration as a fan and give my opinions. And I hope Gunner and Craddock and the Offense prove me wrong, because that means we doing somthing good. If I’m right then that means ugh oh. So I rather be proved wrong and eat crow than be right. 100%
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Post by buzzlightyear on Sept 11, 2023 11:35:59 GMT -6
Why do you guys have such disrespect for Jon Sumrall? Most fit into the Sumrall isn’t ready when he was hired group. They had to struggle through a 12 win season and hoping with all hope for Troy to fail so they can tell everyone they were right. I think the phrase Jonesey and Hemi is looking for is mood stabilization. We all have opinions and we also have alimentary emptying sites. I don’t begrudge anyone for an opinion but mine is that mood stabilization meds can work.
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Post by trojanocean on Sept 11, 2023 11:48:45 GMT -6
It's a totally serious question. Jon Sumrall, perceived to be frustrated or not, is the guy in charge and HE has chosen our OC...and our quarterback...for that matter. You guys trash on his decisions right and left. That's an objective fact. You either believe and trust in his decision and vision or you don't. He's the head coach and it all begins and ends with him.  So yeah totally serious. (The HC we don’t speak of) Ch!p Lindsay was the Head Coach of the Troy Trojans for three years. Did YOU believe and trust in his decision and vision or did YOU not at anytime question him? According to your rationale: He was the head coach and it all begins and ends with him. Did you blindly follow with with any doubt or questions ? I bet we can go back to your previous posts and find out. No coach is infallible. Every coach makes hiring mistakes. Facts. The great and legendary Larry B. did. Doesn’t make him not the legend, just makes him human. Our offense is anaemic, dull and unproductive as a whole. This is a college football message board. People come to comment, talk and discuss their opinions about the program they love. Get with that. I will not blindly follow any man but will say Jon Sumrall is a good coach, will get this straight. And it will not be with the Crap offense. Bet it. No, no...it's got nothing to do with a previous coach or my belief and trust in him or not. I'll be glad to discuss that for sure but it's a separate discussion and this is just a "look over here" dodge away from the fact: Jon Sumrall has chosen his OC and his quarterback for Troy Trojan football and you and others' criticisms do nothing but question his judgement. Paint it up however you want but that is what is happening and pointing at something or someone else doesn't negate that reality. THE coach that made all of the decisions which took a dumpster fire of a football program and turned it around in ONE YEAR that will go down in Trojan history as an indelible mark in the program is they guy that you have the hubris to suppose you know how to make decisions better than. Yeah, it's a message board and people come to comment, talk, and discuss...and that's exactly what I'm doing. So YOU get with that. We had the same exact discussions WITHIN the year that I just mentioned and about the same things. And how did we do last year? You were wrong and he was right. It just goes to show that some people's' passion are not Troy football; at least not first, but rather it's message board angst and sounding off. The Captain is righting the sailing ship but you're standing on the deck complaining because the wind is blowing. Just remember, before you wipe off the gameday cheetos from your fingers so you can type, Jon Sumrall cares more than you do and has more at stake than you do. So don't guttersnipe from the sidelines while burping Dr. Pepper and think it's gonna accomplish anything at all. It's not.
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Sept 11, 2023 12:26:56 GMT -6
Post by The Cardinal Rule on Sept 11, 2023 12:26:56 GMT -6
On another note does anyone have a couple of spare tickets they could give me or is there any of you that sit in those fancy stadium seats in the press box that I could make friends with this week and hang out with you during the game?
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Sept 11, 2023 12:27:59 GMT -6
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 11, 2023 12:27:59 GMT -6
(The HC we don’t speak of) Ch!p Lindsay was the Head Coach of the Troy Trojans for three years. Did YOU believe and trust in his decision and vision or did YOU not at anytime question him? According to your rationale: He was the head coach and it all begins and ends with him. Did you blindly follow with with any doubt or questions ? I bet we can go back to your previous posts and find out. No coach is infallible. Every coach makes hiring mistakes. Facts. The great and legendary Larry B. did. Doesn’t make him not the legend, just makes him human. Our offense is anaemic, dull and unproductive as a whole. This is a college football message board. People come to comment, talk and discuss their opinions about the program they love. Get with that. I will not blindly follow any man but will say Jon Sumrall is a good coach, will get this straight. And it will not be with the Crap offense. Bet it. No, no...it's got nothing to do with a previous coach or my belief and trust in him or not. I'll be glad to discuss that for sure but it's a separate discussion and this is just a "look over here" dodge away from the fact: Jon Sumrall has chosen his OC and his quarterback for Troy Trojan football and you and others' criticisms do nothing but question his judgement. Paint it up however you want but that is what is happening and pointing at something or someone else doesn't negate that reality. THE coach that made all of the decisions which took a dumpster fire of a football program and turned it around in ONE YEAR that will go down in Trojan history as an indelible mark in the program is they guy that you have the hubris to suppose you know how to make decisions better than. Yeah, it's a message board and people come to comment, talk, and discuss...and that's exactly what I'm doing. So YOU get with that. We had the same exact discussions WITHIN the year that I just mentioned and about the same things. And how did we do last year? You were wrong and he was right. It just goes to show that some people's' passion are not Troy football; at least not first, but rather it's message board angst and sounding off. The Captain is righting the sailing ship but you're standing on the deck complaining because the wind is blowing. Just remember, before you wipe off the gameday cheetos from your fingers so you can type, Jon Sumrall cares more than you do and has more at stake than you do. So don't guttersnipe from the sidelines while burping Dr. Pepper and think it's gonna accomplish anything at all. It's not. No, No, No You want us to blindly follow the head coach and their decisions no questions asked. You can’t ask for one and deny for another. I am not a lemming, I do not just follow someone off the cliff. If you want to go ahead, that is your choice. Put don’t be a hypocrite. I celebrated last year hard. It was great but we can always improve, one must always be looking to get better. Jon Sumrall will be the first to tell you that. Our offense has been unproductive last year and this year. Our defense was probably the best Defense will we see for a long time at Troy, it won last year. And that’s bu!!S*** that Jon Sumrall cares more about Troy than me. Troy means everything to me. Jon Sumrall gets paid a million dollars a year to care and gets paid whether he wins or losses. And when he moves on to his next job, he will care about that place more than Troy, I will still be here, gibing money and attending games. I know Jon Sumrall cares about this players and understands Troy fans passion. I respect his desire to win and appreciate it. It is a job for him, he wouldn’t do it for free or for $100k, nor should he. Jon Sumrall is here because he is getting paid to be here. I am here and give money because I want to. but comparing his and mine passion and value of Troy in our heart is wrong sir. You are dead wrong. Dead.
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Post by trojanocean on Sept 11, 2023 13:23:26 GMT -6
No, no...it's got nothing to do with a previous coach or my belief and trust in him or not. I'll be glad to discuss that for sure but it's a separate discussion and this is just a "look over here" dodge away from the fact: Jon Sumrall has chosen his OC and his quarterback for Troy Trojan football and you and others' criticisms do nothing but question his judgement. Paint it up however you want but that is what is happening and pointing at something or someone else doesn't negate that reality. THE coach that made all of the decisions which took a dumpster fire of a football program and turned it around in ONE YEAR that will go down in Trojan history as an indelible mark in the program is they guy that you have the hubris to suppose you know how to make decisions better than. Yeah, it's a message board and people come to comment, talk, and discuss...and that's exactly what I'm doing. So YOU get with that. We had the same exact discussions WITHIN the year that I just mentioned and about the same things. And how did we do last year? You were wrong and he was right. It just goes to show that some people's' passion are not Troy football; at least not first, but rather it's message board angst and sounding off. The Captain is righting the sailing ship but you're standing on the deck complaining because the wind is blowing. Just remember, before you wipe off the gameday cheetos from your fingers so you can type, Jon Sumrall cares more than you do and has more at stake than you do. So don't guttersnipe from the sidelines while burping Dr. Pepper and think it's gonna accomplish anything at all. It's not. No, No, No You want us to blindly follow the head coach and their decisions no questions asked. You can’t ask for one and deny for another. I am not a lemming, I do not just follow someone off the cliff. If you want to go ahead, that is your choice. Put don’t be a hypocrite. I celebrated last year hard. It was great but we can always improve, one must always be looking to get better. Jon Sumrall will be the first to tell you that. Our offense has been unproductive last year and this year. Our defense was probably the best Defense will we see for a long time at Troy, it won last year. And that’s bu!!S*** that Jon Sumrall cares more about Troy than me. Troy means everything to me. Jon Sumrall gets paid a million dollars a year to care and gets paid whether he wins or losses. And when he moves on to his next job, he will care about that place more than Troy, I will still be here, gibing money and attending games. I know Jon Sumrall cares about this players and understands Troy fans passion. I respect his desire to win and appreciate it. It is a job for him, he wouldn’t do it for free or for $100k, nor should he. Jon Sumrall is here because he is getting paid to be here. I am here and give money because I want to. but comparing his and mine passion and value of Troy in our heart is wrong sir. You are dead wrong. Dead. You guttersnipe. And I'm not wrong. Get with that.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 11, 2023 14:17:52 GMT -6
We struggle on offense. Here are some stats.
Average 25 points a game. Average 365 yards per game. Only broken 500 yards twice, each against fcs. 35% on third down 66% on fourth down Average 5 penalties per game Average 48 yards in penalties per game.
Most yards ever 540 against SFA Most yards against FBS 421 vs Marshall Most points ever 45 vs Coastal Fewest yards ever 153 vs UTSA Fewest points ever 10 (3 way tie) vs Ole Miss, South Gump, Army.
Based on the stats, we are disciplined with only 5 penalties. Our biggest issue is 35% on third down. This probably correlates to the 25 points per game average.
Maybe it’s not our OC and maybe it’s former regime players. I don’t know and that’s why I’m not a coach. I do know we struggle on offense.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 11, 2023 14:26:50 GMT -6
We struggle on offense. Here are some stats. Average 25 points a game. Average 365 yards per game. Only broken 500 yards twice, each against fcs. 35% on third down 66% on fourth down Average 5 penalties per game Average 48 yards in penalties per game. Most yards ever 540 against SFA Most yards against FBS 421 vs Marshall Most points ever 45 vs Coastal Fewest yards ever 153 vs UTSA Fewest points ever 10 (3 way tie) vs Ole Miss, South Gump, Army. Based on the stats, we are disciplined with only 5 penalties. Our biggest issue is 35% on third down. This probably correlates to the 25 points per game average. Maybe it’s not our OC and maybe it’s former regime players. I don’t know and that’s why I’m not a coach. I do know we struggle on offense. TBB, Don’t think you are allowed to question the Trojan football program and Jon Sumrall abilities? You’re not a true Trojan then. (I kid ya, I enjoy your posts sir)
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Post by trojanocean on Sept 11, 2023 15:15:51 GMT -6
We struggle on offense. Here are some stats. Average 25 points a game. Average 365 yards per game. Only broken 500 yards twice, each against fcs. 35% on third down 66% on fourth down Average 5 penalties per game Average 48 yards in penalties per game. Most yards ever 540 against SFA Most yards against FBS 421 vs Marshall Most points ever 45 vs Coastal Fewest yards ever 153 vs UTSA Fewest points ever 10 (3 way tie) vs Ole Miss, South Gump, Army. Based on the stats, we are disciplined with only 5 penalties. Our biggest issue is 35% on third down. This probably correlates to the 25 points per game average. Maybe it’s not our OC and maybe it’s former regime players. I don’t know and that’s why I’m not a coach. I do know we struggle on offense. TBB, I have zero problems with your post and the notion that we struggle on offense. Not one. Make this post right here all day long. I'm good to go. What I do call into serious question is the idea that any one of us out here in keyboard land have any good clue as to the reasons WHY. The OC is an easy target. He's the one to get them ready and designing the offensive game plan. But I have to also imagine that HCJS not only has these stats - he's got more stats, additional data, and absolute knowledge of all the strengths and weaknesses of the offense. And with that knowledge, the amount dwarfing what any of us have all put together, he has made a decision. He also knows the strengths and weaknesses of Gunner Watson, Goose Crowder, and Kilcrease, and all the rest. And with that he makes his decision. I trust his decision. I trust it because the stats say I should: 12W-2L. Those same offensive stats you gave resulted in....12W-2L. I don't give a durn how we win. So long as we find a way to win. All due respect, I do not trust TBB or Saint to make the decisions because winning in football is hard enough for those whose every motivation it is to succeed at it. It's even harder for you two who comparatively speaking don't know jack squat about it. It's not a new phenomena. All 12 wins and 2 losses, the rest of us heard nearly more about how bad the OC is and how wrong the quarterback was than we did about winning 12. It just does no good. But I know we're guys and we just want to find something to crow about. So do so about something like "the offense is weak". Even the coaches will say that, as they did. Don't be goofily arrogant enough to run some guy down who you don't know and in a world of circumstances you know nothing about. Or at least be fair about it and tell us what and where y'all do for a living and let us come pick the bones dry and stand outside your office door and tear a stripe off of you for the failures and weaknesses that you have while we drool rotel dip down our shirts. I guarantee one thing...it wouldn't motivate you to do better. It'd probably make you susceptible to do worse and give you something a good counselor would need lots of sessions to help you with. Enough opponents will pile on them on Saturday. Be helpful for your Trojans.
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Post by troyfan on Sept 11, 2023 15:38:15 GMT -6
Is this a serious question? It's a totally serious question. Jon Sumrall, perceived to be frustrated or not, is the guy in charge and HE has chosen our OC...and our quarterback...for that matter. You guys trash on his decisions right and left. That's an objective fact. You either believe and trust in his decision and vision or you don't. He's the head coach and it all begins and ends with him. So yeah totally serious. I respect the hell out of sumrall and his staff. Some in here know I am behind craddock more so than most. Sumrall doesn’t like to lose.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 11, 2023 15:51:55 GMT -6
We struggle on offense. Here are some stats. Average 25 points a game. Average 365 yards per game. Only broken 500 yards twice, each against fcs. 35% on third down 66% on fourth down Average 5 penalties per game Average 48 yards in penalties per game. Most yards ever 540 against SFA Most yards against FBS 421 vs Marshall Most points ever 45 vs Coastal Fewest yards ever 153 vs UTSA Fewest points ever 10 (3 way tie) vs Ole Miss, South Gump, Army. Based on the stats, we are disciplined with only 5 penalties. Our biggest issue is 35% on third down. This probably correlates to the 25 points per game average. Maybe it’s not our OC and maybe it’s former regime players. I don’t know and that’s why I’m not a coach. I do know we struggle on offense. TBB, I have zero problems with your post and the notion that we struggle on offense. Not one. Make this post right here all day long. I'm good to go. What I do call into serious question is the idea that any one of us out here in keyboard land have any good clue as to the reasons WHY. The OC is an easy target. He's the one to get them ready and designing the offensive game plan. But I have to also imagine that HCJS not only has these stats - he's got more stats, additional data, and absolute knowledge of all the strengths and weaknesses of the offense. And with that knowledge, the amount dwarfing what any of us have all put together, he has made a decision. He also knows the strengths and weaknesses of Gunner Watson, Goose Crowder, and Kilcrease, and all the rest. And with that he makes his decision. I trust his decision. I trust it because the stats say I should: 12W-2L. Those same offensive stats you gave resulted in....12W-2L. I don't give a durn how we win. So long as we find a way to win. All due respect, I do not trust TBB or Saint to make the decisions because winning in football is hard enough for those whose every motivation it is to succeed at it. It's even harder for you two who comparatively speaking don't know jack squat about it. It's not a new phenomena. All 12 wins and 2 losses, the rest of us heard nearly more about how bad the OC is and how wrong the quarterback was than we did about winning 12. It just does no good. But I know we're guys and we just want to find something to crow about. So do so about something like "the offense is weak". Even the coaches will say that, as they did. Don't be goofily arrogant enough to run some guy down who you don't know and in a world of circumstances you know nothing about. Or at least be fair about it and tell us what and where y'all do for a living and let us come pick the bones dry and stand outside your office door and tear a stripe off of you for the failures and weaknesses that you have while we drool rotel dip down our shirts. I guarantee one thing...it wouldn't motivate you to do better. It'd probably make you susceptible to do worse and give you something a good counselor would need lots of sessions to help you with. Enough opponents will pile on them on Saturday. Be helpful for your Trojans. Ocean, you sucking down too much seawater. Who is going to any coach’s office door and tearing a stripe off them ? My clients, you know the paying customers have no problem telling me if my people are not doing what they need to be doing or if there is a problem. I encourage it, it makes us better. Who are Troy football paying customers? Plus, this is a message board, where fans talk about stuff.
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Post by cornhole on Sept 11, 2023 16:06:05 GMT -6
TBB, Don’t think you are allowed to question the Trojan football program and Jon Sumrall abilities? You’re not a true Trojan then. (I kid ya, I enjoy your posts sir) Recollection is, you questioned HCJS abilities when hired, " He's not Ready". Totally allowed comment fo sho! How'd that work out??
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Post by cornhole on Sept 11, 2023 16:37:16 GMT -6
Why do you guys have such disrespect for Jon Sumrall? Most fit into the Sumrall isn’t ready when he was hired group. They had to struggle through a 12 win season and hoping with all hope for Troy to fail so they can tell everyone they were right. One loss wonders. No surprise at these debby downers after a loss to a Top Ten program. Predictable athletic supporters.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 11, 2023 16:44:59 GMT -6
TBB, I have zero problems with your post and the notion that we struggle on offense. Not one. Make this post right here all day long. I'm good to go. What I do call into serious question is the idea that any one of us out here in keyboard land have any good clue as to the reasons WHY. The OC is an easy target. He's the one to get them ready and designing the offensive game plan. But I have to also imagine that HCJS not only has these stats - he's got more stats, additional data, and absolute knowledge of all the strengths and weaknesses of the offense. And with that knowledge, the amount dwarfing what any of us have all put together, he has made a decision. He also knows the strengths and weaknesses of Gunner Watson, Goose Crowder, and Kilcrease, and all the rest. And with that he makes his decision. I trust his decision. I trust it because the stats say I should: 12W-2L. Those same offensive stats you gave resulted in....12W-2L. I don't give a durn how we win. So long as we find a way to win. All due respect, I do not trust TBB or Saint to make the decisions because winning in football is hard enough for those whose every motivation it is to succeed at it. It's even harder for you two who comparatively speaking don't know jack squat about it. It's not a new phenomena. All 12 wins and 2 losses, the rest of us heard nearly more about how bad the OC is and how wrong the quarterback was than we did about winning 12. It just does no good. But I know we're guys and we just want to find something to crow about. So do so about something like "the offense is weak". Even the coaches will say that, as they did. Don't be goofily arrogant enough to run some guy down who you don't know and in a world of circumstances you know nothing about. Or at least be fair about it and tell us what and where y'all do for a living and let us come pick the bones dry and stand outside your office door and tear a stripe off of you for the failures and weaknesses that you have while we drool rotel dip down our shirts. I guarantee one thing...it wouldn't motivate you to do better. It'd probably make you susceptible to do worse and give you something a good counselor would need lots of sessions to help you with. Enough opponents will pile on them on Saturday. Be helpful for your Trojans. Ocean, you sucking down too much seawater. Who is going to any coach’s office door and tearing a stripe off them ? My clients, you know the paying customers have no problem telling me if my people are not doing what they need to be doing or if there is a problem. I encourage it, it makes us better. Who are Troy football paying customers? Plus, this is a message board, where fans talk about stuff. Was going to respond but you nailed it.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Sept 12, 2023 6:57:42 GMT -6
At the end of the day, it's pretty apparent our commonality is we all love Troy football and want them to do well.
Some just see different means to a successful end.
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Post by trojanfan251 on Sept 12, 2023 12:06:14 GMT -6
At the end of the day, it's pretty apparent our commonality is we all love Troy football and want them to do well. Some just see different means to a successful end. Trojans one and all
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