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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 11, 2022 9:29:55 GMT -6
Week two and we are firing coaches on here. You guys make my Sunday mornings!
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Post by jamesflint on Sept 11, 2022 9:43:11 GMT -6
A couple of observations from Captain Flint *again some interesting comments in here. *yes some major overreactions. *but some legitimate cause for concern. *simply put this team was not prepared and ready to go for this game. Lots of speculation on why floating around. *remember Jon Sumrall has never been a Head Coach. He is learning on the job. We will have to bear through his growing pains. Not an excuse though. *Watson put up great stats. He should have based on the level of competition. He is slow and App and Marshall will not let him just sit back there with no pressure and sling it. Some have said it already, we see Doege sooner than later. Sumrall may be saving Costelli since Doege has one year left and he might be thinking this is a transition year anyway. *the difference in talent level was stark. We should have scored 60+ *offensive scheme is fine. Got to execute it. Got to put the players in the best position to succeed. A lot of opportunities for coaching improvements. *Even if we get waxed by App and Marshall, it will be key to see if this staff can keep team focused. *But NOT conceding anything! Let’s go to Boone and slap up some Hillbillies !!!
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 11, 2022 9:48:41 GMT -6
Get over yourself. That show wasn't bad. I thought it was too short too, but I think the plan was to have A&Ms band here too, so that's why it was short. I'm guessing they cancelled due to weather? I know I was told they were coming. A&M band pulled out mid week. Not sure why I always thought we had to pay for the opposing band to travel. I seem to remember Famu complaining about us not paying.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 11, 2022 9:50:42 GMT -6
Week two and we are firing coaches on here. You guys make my Sunday mornings! Let’s be clear, I aint firing anyone. I fully support HCJS. That being said however, if XHCNB loses his job at WVU, I would want him back as OC and HC in waiting. So when HCJS gets a SEC job, we have XHCNB back where he will be loved.
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Post by jamesflint on Sept 11, 2022 9:52:12 GMT -6
Week two and we are firing coaches on here. You guys make my Sunday mornings! Let’s be clear, I aint firing anyone. I fully support HCJS. That being said however, if XHCNB loses his job at WVU, I would want him back as OC and HC in waiting. So when HCJS gets a SEC job, we have XHCNB back where he will be loved. That’s a dream that has almost zero probability. That would be awesome though.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Sept 11, 2022 10:37:20 GMT -6
Week two and we are firing coaches on here. You guys make my Sunday mornings! Letâs be clear, I aint firing anyone. I fully support HCJS. That being said however, if XHCNB loses his job at WVU, I would want him back as OC and HC in waiting. So when HCJS gets a SEC job, we have XHCNB back where he will be loved. Neal's Brown's offense is nearly as stale as (The HC we don’t speak of)'s, so that's a no for me. As far as head coach is concerned, that's also a no for me. He's not the same Neal Brown, this isn't the same situation, and Vic Koenning and Al Pogue probably aren't coming with him. People don't understand the impact Al Pogue and Vic Koenning had on Troy football. It wasn't just the Neal Brown show. Buy in from the team would not be like it was when he first arrived after his performance at WVU. If Sumrall doesn't work out, we'll need to go in a different direction. This version of the SBC is too powerful to not go after the best we can get. And let me be clear, we will have to start paying coaches a lot more than we are now to compete with this beast of a conference.
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Post by trojanocean on Sept 11, 2022 11:04:44 GMT -6
As much as I like Neal Brown as a person of character and his relational aspects, I am not sure I'd want him back as head coach. However, it's such a moot point to consider that it's not really worth mentioning.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Sept 11, 2022 11:23:41 GMT -6
Letâs be clear, I aint firing anyone. I fully support HCJS. That being said however, if XHCNB loses his job at WVU, I would want him back as OC and HC in waiting. So when HCJS gets a SEC job, we have XHCNB back where he will be loved. Neal's Brown's offense is nearly as stale as (The HC we don’t speak of)'s, so that's a no for me. As far as head coach is concerned, that's also a no for me. He's not the same Neal Brown, this isn't the same situation, and Vic Koenning and Al Pogue probably aren't coming with him. People don't understand the impact Al Pogue and Vic Koenning had on Troy football. It wasn't just the Neal Brown show. Buy in from the team would not be like it was when he first arrived after his performance at WVU. If Sumrall doesn't work out, we'll need to go in a different direction. This version of the SBC is too powerful to not go after the best we can get. And let me be clear, we will have to start paying coaches a lot more than we are now to compete with this beast of a conference. applause....to the people doing the work around your direction as the head of a business or other entity. Pretty pleased with my staff as it currently consists itself. However, loss of money and just plain frustration is just one or two key people away.....No matter how "fantastic" I am........(kidding about that last part.) . As to the new beast of conference. We will see if it is sustainable at one place or another very long but the conference appears to headed it a very favorable direction. Once you choose or help develop a course of action it is kind of like jumping off a high dive. You are doing it and you might as well do it as well as you can!!! No go backs.......
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Post by ksdtrojan on Sept 11, 2022 12:31:41 GMT -6
This coaching staff gets the year. Sumrall (presser) sounds like a man determined to make this work. He is not pleased and made that evident.
Tightends being utilized at TROY is such a welcome sight.
One line up had the five down linemen 2 tights in the back field immediately diagonal to the tackles and then wideouts on each side on the line with QB and RB stacked. I loved this set.
We will improve. HCJS will make sure of it and I’d wager if any of the current staff don’t perform he will make the right call.
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Post by joshboutwell on Sept 11, 2022 12:40:23 GMT -6
58 rushing yards - that's the problem 500+ total yards 68% pass completion by Gunnar with NO run support - 4 TD and he had a perfect ball dropped A flea flicker pick and the other pick was a tight throw that hit the receiver in stride in the hands No QB will be great with less than 125 rushing yards a game Gunnar started slow for sure - he and the rest of the offense will have to play better We MUST FIGURE OUT HOW TO RUN THE BALL The false starts have got to be fixed Where was Tez Johnson? Receivers dropped quite a few last night so they need to tighten up Play action with Gunnar rolling out is not his strong point Doege may be the guy but everyone in the stadium was ready to get rid of Gunnar after the first play We are not a very good football team and you usually make your biggest jump game 2 - I did not see a lot of improvement Defense gave up 68 rushing yards and created turnovers so that was great 4 sacks - very good kick off - very good punting - good Let's go to Boone and kick A$$ State - I mean kick App State in the mouth The only truly poor throw/bad decision Gunnar made IMO was the pass on the flea flicker. That ball should have never even been thrown, not a single player on the defense was fooled. He was excellent in the second half, especially when they went no huddle and he even acknowledged after the game he's extremely comfortable doing it and thought that helped him/the offense. The fact that there are people that really believe Gunnar is getting replaced after the game he had is absolutely insane to me. Not saying Doege won't get a shot at some point but I just don't understand how so many seem to be enamored by him throwing a pretty ball against an undermanned defense that had just had almost 400 yards rolled up on them in two quarters by the time he got in the game compared to the guy that rolled up that nearly 400 yards. With, like you said, no running game. His understanding of the offense is still extremely limited, too. The lack of a running game is the thing that is going to continue to hurt. If that continues to happen it's going to spell disaster for the offense and the team in general. The defense has also played extremely poorly in the start of two straight games, one against an FCS opponent, and Sumrall is not hiding from that. As others have mentioned, making adjustments at halftime and playing better in the second half is great - and needed - but you can't keep playing that poorly in the first quarter and be in games against teams like App State, Louisiana, Western Kentucky, etc.
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Post by joshboutwell on Sept 11, 2022 12:41:48 GMT -6
How are we this bad on offense, oh wait we are running a pro style with spread personal, smh should’ve went with a spread oc not this under center S*** You can count on one hand how many times Troy is under center.
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Post by joshboutwell on Sept 11, 2022 12:42:54 GMT -6
Think he would come back? Doubt he would, even though he knows where his bread his buttered now. I think buying out Sumrall and staff's contracts would be impossible. Good grief.
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 11, 2022 13:21:10 GMT -6
Doubt he would, even though he knows where his bread his buttered now. I think buying out Sumrall and staff's contracts would be impossible. Good grief. This type of silliness is the norm on here
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Post by buzzlightyear on Sept 11, 2022 13:54:32 GMT -6
This type of silliness os the norm on here flat out Be..Zarrrre!
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Sept 11, 2022 16:13:07 GMT -6
This type of silliness is the norm on here I wish reading comprehension was the norm here.
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Post by troyjan95 on Sept 11, 2022 17:14:26 GMT -6
58 rushing yards - that's the problem 500+ total yards 68% pass completion by Gunnar with NO run support - 4 TD and he had a perfect ball dropped A flea flicker pick and the other pick was a tight throw that hit the receiver in stride in the hands No QB will be great with less than 125 rushing yards a game Gunnar started slow for sure - he and the rest of the offense will have to play better We MUST FIGURE OUT HOW TO RUN THE BALL The false starts have got to be fixed Where was Tez Johnson? Receivers dropped quite a few last night so they need to tighten up Play action with Gunnar rolling out is not his strong point Doege may be the guy but everyone in the stadium was ready to get rid of Gunnar after the first play We are not a very good football team and you usually make your biggest jump game 2 - I did not see a lot of improvement Defense gave up 68 rushing yards and created turnovers so that was great 4 sacks - very good kick off - very good punting - good Let's go to Boone and kick A$$ State - I mean kick App State in the mouth The only truly poor throw/bad decision Gunnar made IMO was the pass on the flea flicker. That ball should have never even been thrown, not a single player on the defense was fooled. He was excellent in the second half, especially when they went no huddle and he even acknowledged after the game he's extremely comfortable doing it and thought that helped him/the offense. The fact that there are people that really believe Gunnar is getting replaced after the game he had is absolutely insane to me. Not saying Doege won't get a shot at some point but I just don't understand how so many seem to be enamored by him throwing a pretty ball against an undermanned defense that had just had almost 400 yards rolled up on them in two quarters by the time he got in the game compared to the guy that rolled up that nearly 400 yards. With, like you said, no running game. His understanding of the offense is still extremely limited, too. The lack of a running game is the thing that is going to continue to hurt. If that continues to happen it's going to spell disaster for the offense and the team in general. The defense has also played extremely poorly in the start of two straight games, one against an FCS opponent, and Sumrall is not hiding from that. As others have mentioned, making adjustments at halftime and playing better in the second half is great - and needed - but you can't keep playing that poorly in the first quarter and be in games against teams like App State, Louisiana, Western Kentucky, etc. Was the TD throw in the north end zone to the left OVER THE LEFT SHOULDER where only our guy could catch it - please reply yes or no
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Post by joshboutwell on Sept 11, 2022 19:00:49 GMT -6
The only truly poor throw/bad decision Gunnar made IMO was the pass on the flea flicker. That ball should have never even been thrown, not a single player on the defense was fooled. He was excellent in the second half, especially when they went no huddle and he even acknowledged after the game he's extremely comfortable doing it and thought that helped him/the offense. The fact that there are people that really believe Gunnar is getting replaced after the game he had is absolutely insane to me. Not saying Doege won't get a shot at some point but I just don't understand how so many seem to be enamored by him throwing a pretty ball against an undermanned defense that had just had almost 400 yards rolled up on them in two quarters by the time he got in the game compared to the guy that rolled up that nearly 400 yards. With, like you said, no running game. His understanding of the offense is still extremely limited, too. The lack of a running game is the thing that is going to continue to hurt. If that continues to happen it's going to spell disaster for the offense and the team in general. The defense has also played extremely poorly in the start of two straight games, one against an FCS opponent, and Sumrall is not hiding from that. As others have mentioned, making adjustments at halftime and playing better in the second half is great - and needed - but you can't keep playing that poorly in the first quarter and be in games against teams like App State, Louisiana, Western Kentucky, etc. Was the TD throw in the north end zone to the left OVER THE LEFT SHOULDER where only our guy could catch it - please reply yes or no The throw to Lewis? Yes and it was beautiful. But why? Oh and Tez Johnson has been dealing with a rib injury since fall camp and I believe he aggravated it against Ole Miss.
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Post by troyjan95 on Sept 11, 2022 19:14:32 GMT -6
But why? not a reference to your post - more of a question post to everyone ooh and ahhing about the throw doege made over the left shoulder late in the game where only our guy could catch it
Both guys can sling the rock imo
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 11, 2022 19:35:12 GMT -6
This type of silliness is the norm on here I wish reading comprehension was the norm here. I wish common sense was common on message boards.
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 11, 2022 19:36:24 GMT -6
But why? not a reference to your post - more of a question post to everyone ooh and ahhing about the throw doege made over the left shoulder late in the game where only our guy could catch it Both guys can sling the rock imo We all know the backup QB is most everyone’s favorite player.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 11, 2022 19:44:17 GMT -6
But why? not a reference to your post - more of a question post to everyone ooh and ahhing about the throw doege made over the left shoulder late in the game where only our guy could catch it Both guys can sling the rock imo We all know the backup QB is most everyone’s favorite player.
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