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Nov 30, 2020 12:20:53 GMT -6
Post by trojanmagnum on Nov 30, 2020 12:20:53 GMT -6
It doesn’t matter! He brought in the 3rd string QB and never threw the ball! There is part of the problem. Poor play calling and not knowing how to use the talent that he has recruited! I agree. Best drive of the day was the 4th quarter drive yet there was never any intention of trying to score as we just let the clock run out inside the 10.
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Post by trojanmatt on Nov 30, 2020 13:01:25 GMT -6
I have reached out to Ad Jones and already received a response! I like him and will support him, bu t should we be going through Brent or should we be emailing Dr. Hawkins directly?
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Nov 30, 2020 13:12:28 GMT -6
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Post by troyfan87 on Nov 30, 2020 13:12:28 GMT -6
The transfer portal will not light up if a hire of a guy that seems relatable to Players. If we keep the dude the portal will probably light up more. I wish I could be in Carlton Martial’s mind to know what is thought by the players.However it is pretty clear the fan base is pretty unanimous. The play calling for situations has been iffy at best. Zone read running is PITTIFUL missing them or simply not there. A little power sweep or something but our backs are to good to be wasted. Thus back to when to call plays. Yes execution helps but this is not hard for a D coordinator to figure out. WELL look what just popped up on Twitter two hours ago. Freshman Member of the 2019 Signing Class ... GONE! The leaving has begun, whether it is due to grades OR football, the door has opened ... DesmondBarkley #JUCOPRODUCT @holmes_Football Whats happening?...He has been gone he just now announcing...Holmes Community College...soooooo
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Post by Cane Gone Trojan on Nov 30, 2020 13:54:13 GMT -6
I just cant believe that (The HC we don’t speak of) committed future Head coach of college football suicide. The best head coaching opportunity he will get after running the Troy football program into the ground is maybe a High School head coaching job. He seems to have surrounded him self with mainly coaches that have no idea what they are doing at the D1 level. It makes me wonder if he was paid big money by someone to bring the Troy football program down and set it back for maybe years to come. I wish no ill will on anyone, but as a proud Alumnus of Troy University, I'm disgusted/sick of what has transpired to my team these past few years. Changes are DEFINITELY needed ASAP!
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Nov 30, 2020 14:39:38 GMT -6
Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 30, 2020 14:39:38 GMT -6
I have reached out to Ad Jones and already received a response! I like him and will support him, bu t should we be going through Brent or should we be emailing Dr. Hawkins directly? I'll play. What did you say and what did he say?
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Nov 30, 2020 15:45:10 GMT -6
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Post by troyfan on Nov 30, 2020 15:45:10 GMT -6
I have reached out to Ad Jones and already received a response! I like him and will support him, bu t should we be going through Brent or should we be emailing Dr. Hawkins directly? Send me your email and I'll send it right back to Brent.
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Nov 30, 2020 19:14:08 GMT -6
Post by trojanmagnum on Nov 30, 2020 19:14:08 GMT -6
It doesn’t matter! He brought in the 3rd string QB and never threw the ball! There is part of the problem. Poor play calling and not knowing how to use the talent that he has recruited! Worse than that they had an almost 12 minute drive and instead of letting the team attempt to score he let the clock run out. No confidence in kids or no confidence in himself?
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Post by trojanmatt on Nov 30, 2020 21:31:54 GMT -6
The response I got was rather generic which I understand! There is not a lot he can say to make me or any of us happy! He acknowledges that the results from this weekends game were disappointing and that the season has been full of challenges and that our goal is to compete for conference championships. I will be e- mailing Dr. Hawkins tomorrow! The point is that he has read my message and is aware that we are not happy!
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 30, 2020 21:47:05 GMT -6
The response I got was rather generic which I understand! There is not a lot he can say to make me or any of us happy! He acknowledges that the results from this weekends game were disappointing and that the season has been full of challenges and that our goal is to compete for conference championships. I will be e- mailing Dr. Hawkins tomorrow! The point is that he has read my message and is aware that we are not happy! The way I read your post, it seems he thinks we just had a bad weekend and don't really have a problem. It also sounds like since "2020" happened, he is going to give (The HC we don’t speak of) a pass. Also, I don't like his answer in saying that our goal is to compete for conference championships. I believe our goal should be to defeat every opponent we face. Let the championships take care of themselves. Honestly, everyone remembers we beat LSU in 2017, how many people on this board can tell you how many Sunbelt titles we have without looking it up?
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Post by biggtroy on Nov 30, 2020 23:07:06 GMT -6
I was in contact with the AD today and he is extremely frustrated and upset like all of us. Unfortunately at Troy Dr. Jack is the micromanager who calls the shots and he needs to hear from Trojan Nation. (The HC we don’t speak of) was under contract and in the job before Mr. Jones was promoted to AD. Also....even with all the growth of Troy University Dr. Jack is a frugal tightwad and will not want to find the 1.7 for the buyout....mainly cause he would have to admit the hiring mistake. Intercollegiate Athletics has always provided the "front door" to colleges and universities. Our entire brand will suffer significant damage if this is allowed to continue. I will continue to cheer loudly for "the school that we love" and pray for a brighter future. God Bless and Go Trojans!
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Post by Troystet on Dec 1, 2020 8:45:16 GMT -6
(The HC we don’t speak of) will get a pass this season even though Covid had no bearing on Coastal, App or Lousiana-Lafayette and the house of Saban. He will be the HC is 2021 and if some miracle he manages to go 7-5 they will probably give him an extension. My hope is he does what he does best...packs a suitcase and leaves for his next one year stint
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Dec 1, 2020 10:08:24 GMT -6
Post by easternshoretrojan on Dec 1, 2020 10:08:24 GMT -6
The million dollar question is..... who would hire him at this point?
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Dec 1, 2020 10:22:06 GMT -6
The million dollar question is..... who would hire him at this point? (The HC we don’t speak of)? Us that's who? We are hiring him by not firing him.
With time he will back as a position coach at a AA high school team where he belongs. That or an angry LEO, one or the other.
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Dec 1, 2020 10:52:14 GMT -6
Post by Troystet on Dec 1, 2020 10:52:14 GMT -6
The million dollar question is..... who would hire him at this point? Akron. They are 0-14 under their second year coach. I say offer Akron U. (The HC we don’t speak of) and we pay for his membership to Firestone CC and give the Akron Administration Two years of FREE Crowe's chicken. Headline "(The HC we don’t speak of) TO THE ZIPS"
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Dec 1, 2020 11:03:15 GMT -6
Post by trojantke on Dec 1, 2020 11:03:15 GMT -6
I think we all agree that (The HC we don’t speak of) isn't going anywhere this season. I'm still hopeful we can #BeatSouth and #BeatULM on Senior Day and give ourselves a shot at playing late in December. Anyone else or is the general mood that the season is lost regardless of how we perform in those two games?
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Post by Troystet on Dec 1, 2020 11:15:52 GMT -6
I think we all agree that (The HC we don’t speak of) isn't going anywhere this season. I'm still hopeful we can #BeatSouth and #BeatULM on Senior Day and give ourselves a shot at playing late in December. Anyone else or is the general mood that the season is lost regardless of how we perform in those two games? Ok say we beat South and ULM and end 6-6. That gives us six wins (all over teams with losing records) and Chips record to 11-13 (2 of his 11 wins had winning records "one of them a FCS team and 12 of his 13 losses had winning records) Summary CL can't beat even an average team. 6-6 and we play in Montgomery or somewhere even though this team has no business in a Bowl Game but I feel for the players, most of which didn't sign to play with this coach or staff.
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Dec 1, 2020 11:20:19 GMT -6
Post by trojantke on Dec 1, 2020 11:20:19 GMT -6
I guess you didn't really answer my question, troystet. Would you rather the team go 6-6 and play in a bowl game or lose out and make the case against (The HC we don’t speak of) worse?
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Post by Troystet on Dec 1, 2020 11:29:11 GMT -6
I guess you didn't really answer my question, troystet. Would you rather the team go 6-6 and play in a bowl game or lose out and make the case against (The HC we don’t speak of) worse? As a former player I would like our players to have a reward. That said we still have no business being a Bowl team. As far a Chipper improving next season...slim to none. First we have gotten worse year two and looking at our schedule next season four for sure loses " Liberty, South Carolina, App, Coastal...toss ups....Ga Southern and Ga State...and even Southern Miss (two losses by 3 points and one by one point. Actually a better team than their record) and one sure win in Southern. Best case is 8-4 (100-1 odds), 7-5 (50-1) 6-6 (20-1) 5-7 (5-1) 4-8 (3-1) 3-9 (2-1)
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Dec 1, 2020 11:43:24 GMT -6
Post by biggtroy on Dec 1, 2020 11:43:24 GMT -6
If we do go 6-6 we may still not get in a Bowl as GA state and GA Southern will both be ahead of us in the pecking order. I'm sure AD is working w/ ESPN and maybe the folks up in Montgomery cause that's about the best we could hope for at this point.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 1, 2020 13:04:38 GMT -6
Admittedly, I’ll be very selfish in saying.. Can’t wait to get this football season in the rear view.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Dec 1, 2020 13:56:44 GMT -6
If we do go 6-6 we may still not get in a Bowl as GA state and GA Southern will both be ahead of us in the pecking order. I'm sure AD is working w/ ESPN and maybe the folks up in Montgomery cause that's about the best we could hope for at this point. I'm telling y'all we will be in Montgomery regardless of these next htree games. Johnny is not passing up Troy
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Post by Troystet on Dec 1, 2020 14:14:53 GMT -6
If we do go 6-6 we may still not get in a Bowl as GA state and GA Southern will both be ahead of us in the pecking order. I'm sure AD is working w/ ESPN and maybe the folks up in Montgomery cause that's about the best we could hope for at this point. I'm telling y'all we will be in Montgomery regardless of these next htree games. Johnny is not passing up Troy It's sad. Even if we go 6-6 or 5-7 we won't have a single win over a team with a winning record. Welcome to (The HC we don’t speak of) ball...beat the bad teams, get beat by average teams and get blown out by good teams
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Post by crawlspace13 on Dec 1, 2020 20:09:12 GMT -6
If we do go 6-6 we may still not get in a Bowl as GA state and GA Southern will both be ahead of us in the pecking order. I'm sure AD is working w/ ESPN and maybe the folks up in Montgomery cause that's about the best we could hope for at this point. I'm telling y'all we will be in Montgomery regardless of these next htree games. Johnny is not passing up Troy Admittedly not excited at the prospect. This team shouldn't be in a bowl game. Unless the players can figure out how to coach themselves and just leave (The HC we don’t speak of) and most of his staff at home. They might have a better chance that way.
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Dec 1, 2020 21:08:41 GMT -6
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Post by trojans09 on Dec 1, 2020 21:08:41 GMT -6
Please donât take this the wrong way, but my fear is 6-6 records and 7-5 records means we are stuck with (The HC we don’t speak of) until he decides to leave. I am not saying I pull for Troy to lose, but I definitely am not happy being mediocre. I think itâs almost best to suffer this year and probably next year with taking it on the chin just to get ride of (The HC we don’t speak of) sooner rather than later.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 1, 2020 21:13:43 GMT -6
Please donât take this the wrong way, but my fear is 6-6 records and 7-5 records means we are stuck with (The HC we don’t speak of) until he decides to leave. I am not saying I pull for Troy to lose, but I definitely am not happy being mediocre. I think itâs almost best to suffer this year and probably next year with taking it on the chin just to get ride of (The HC we don’t speak of) sooner rather than later. Ship is taking on water but making the hole bigger makes it a ship wreck that can't be salvaged. This administration reminds me of both Florida and FSU. Both lost highly successful coaches, both chose lousy replacements and one just finally after 10 years got back to winning and the other will take another 5-7 years to recover
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