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Post by troyalumni on Oct 6, 2019 18:12:09 GMT -6
Solution: Donât fire (The HC we don’t speak of). Hire Sumrall as HC and move (The HC we don’t speak of) to OC. Let Sumrall bring in his guys.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 6, 2019 18:30:35 GMT -6
Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Likely water over the dam now.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Oct 6, 2019 19:33:57 GMT -6
So replacing a guy with no HC experience with another guy with no HC experience?
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Oct 6, 2019 19:38:43 GMT -6
This is a bad bad thread
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 6, 2019 19:43:17 GMT -6
Sumrall atleast brings fire and excitement
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Oct 6, 2019 20:04:26 GMT -6
Sumrall was certainly a motivator and an energetic personality.
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Post by troyalumni on Oct 6, 2019 20:04:41 GMT -6
Is it a bad thread? Iâve definitely seen worse. Too my point - (The HC we don’t speak of) is a great OC. I think we could all agree on that. Stick Sumrall in the mix who has a hell of a lot more college football experience than (The HC we don’t speak of). Heâs a defensive mindset, young (36) with fire under his belt. He would get the job done. If you disagree, letâs hear it.
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Post by troyalumni on Oct 6, 2019 20:06:34 GMT -6
So replacing a guy with no HC experience with another guy with no HC experience? Did NB have HC experience? But yet you were a fan of his weren’t you?
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Oct 6, 2019 20:28:53 GMT -6
I was skeptical at first. But Neal Brown was exceptional, that's why he was an *exception* to the rule.
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Post by troyalumni on Oct 6, 2019 21:53:21 GMT -6
I was skeptical at first. But Neal Brown was exceptional, that's why he was an *exception* to the rule. As most people were skeptical, we hadn’t hired a new coach in over two decades.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Oct 6, 2019 22:23:21 GMT -6
Just because someone is a nice guy and played football doesn't mean they will be a good coach. I know a guy who thought we should've tried to hire Tim Tebow to replace Larry Blakeney, and again with Neal Brown!
Neal Brown and Kirby Smart are exceptions to the rule. How is Jeremy Pruitt doing? How about Lane Kiffin? How did VK do at Wyoming? Orgeron is doing great now, but how was his first run at Ole Miss?
I would always look for an up-and-coming FCS head coach over a P5 assistant. But that's just me.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 6, 2019 22:25:02 GMT -6
Solution: Donât fire (The HC we don’t speak of). Hire Sumrall as HC and move (The HC we don’t speak of) to OC. Let Sumrall bring in his guys. These threads get funnier as the get dumber.
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Post by troyalumni on Oct 6, 2019 22:38:28 GMT -6
Solution: Donât fire (The HC we don’t speak of). Hire Sumrall as HC and move (The HC we don’t speak of) to OC. Let Sumrall bring in his guys. These threads get funnier as the get dumber. Says the person who started a thread in 2018 saying âour coaching sucksâ Letâs rewind things back here prior to the (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) hire...as I can recall most ppl on this board were all for Sumrall being hired. In which, Iâm sure would still be the case if a hypothetical situation came up and we were looking for a new coach - since we all like to speak of hypothetical situation on this board. That being said, you mean to tell me Sumrall as a HC and (The HC we don’t speak of) as OC is a dumb idea? I beg to differ. I actually think it would be a great duo.
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Post by troyalumni on Oct 6, 2019 22:42:10 GMT -6
Just because someone is a nice guy and played football doesn't mean they will be a good coach. I know a guy who thought we should've tried to hire Tim Tebow to replace Larry Blakeney, and again with Neal Brown! Neal Brown and Kirby Smart are exceptions to the rule. How is Jeremy Pruitt doing? How about Lane Kiffin? How did VK do at Wyoming? Orgeron is doing great now, but how was his first run at Ole Miss? I would always look for an up-and-coming FCS head coach over a P5 assistant. But that's just me. I never said anything about anyone being a nice guy or playing football. Not sure I’m following your comment
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Oct 6, 2019 22:44:02 GMT -6
These threads get funnier as the get dumber. Says the person who started a thread in 2018 saying âour coaching sucksâ Letâs rewind things back here prior to the (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) hire...as I can recall most ppl on this board were all for Sumrall being hired. In which, Iâm sure would still be the case if a hypothetical situation came up and we were looking for a new coach - since we all like to speak of hypothetical situation on this board. That being said, you mean to tell me Sumrall as a HC and (The HC we don’t speak of) as OC is a dumb idea? I beg to differ. I actually think it would be a great duo. Or...and hear me out, it's a crazy concept...we hire someone with PROVEN HC success!
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Post by troyalumni on Oct 6, 2019 22:49:07 GMT -6
Says the person who started a thread in 2018 saying âour coaching sucksâ Letâs rewind things back here prior to the (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) hire...as I can recall most ppl on this board were all for Sumrall being hired. In which, Iâm sure would still be the case if a hypothetical situation came up and we were looking for a new coach - since we all like to speak of hypothetical situation on this board. That being said, you mean to tell me Sumrall as a HC and (The HC we don’t speak of) as OC is a dumb idea? I beg to differ. I actually think it would be a great duo. Or...and hear me out, it's a crazy concept...we hire someone with PROVEN HC success! Iâm not opposed to that by any means.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Oct 6, 2019 23:50:07 GMT -6
Or...and hear me out, it's a crazy concept...we hire someone with PROVEN HC success! I’m not opposed to that by any means. And it's all I've wanted the admins to do all along. Maybe I'm wrong. Is $1million not enough for a successful I-AA coach? Yes, yes, I know Steve Campbell was a successful AA coach, but - I hate to say it - if he was going to be a I-A coach he would have been one already.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 7, 2019 4:47:35 GMT -6
These threads get funnier as the get dumber. Says the person who started a thread in 2018 saying âour coaching sucksâ Letâs rewind things back here prior to the (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) hire...as I can recall most ppl on this board were all for Sumrall being hired. In which, Iâm sure would still be the case if a hypothetical situation came up and we were looking for a new coach - since we all like to speak of hypothetical situation on this board. That being said, you mean to tell me Sumrall as a HC and (The HC we don’t speak of) as OC is a dumb idea? I beg to differ. I actually think it would be a great duo. I donât see the fascination with hiring a middle linebacker coach with no head coach experience and limited coordinator experience. If Troy fired a Head Coach after 4 games or even after a year just for not winning 10 games, no coach worth anything would even consider Troy in the future. At least make your hypotheticals have a sliver of possible reality.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 7, 2019 5:26:09 GMT -6
Solution: Donât fire (The HC we don’t speak of). Hire Sumrall as HC and move (The HC we don’t speak of) to OC. Let Sumrall bring in his guys. These threads get funnier as the get dumber. Obviously, some folks arenât laughing.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 7, 2019 5:35:27 GMT -6
Talk, laugh, cry, cuss and discuss. Ain’t nobody gettin’ fired soon. Sit back, relax....
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Post by foulpolephenom on Oct 7, 2019 5:40:18 GMT -6
Says the person who started a thread in 2018 saying âour coaching sucksâ Letâs rewind things back here prior to the (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) hire...as I can recall most ppl on this board were all for Sumrall being hired. In which, Iâm sure would still be the case if a hypothetical situation came up and we were looking for a new coach - since we all like to speak of hypothetical situation on this board. That being said, you mean to tell me Sumrall as a HC and (The HC we don’t speak of) as OC is a dumb idea? I beg to differ. I actually think it would be a great duo. Or...and hear me out, it's a crazy concept...we hire someone with PROVEN HC success! Even then, you donât know if it will work out.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 7, 2019 5:42:47 GMT -6
These threads get funnier as the get dumber. Obviously, some folks aren’t laughing. Yes but they need to be logical on whether or not they should be mad. Our defense is a shell of what it was last year. Graduation, injuries and transfers. We have lost so much on that side. The cupboard was not stocked in defense. Saying we should fire coaches after 4 or 5 games based on this situation is ludicrous. Short sighted. CCL would not have been my 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice but I want him to succeed because that means our Trojans succeed. I see the kids still playing and fighting to the end. That means a lot. CCL is following a coach that bought the program back. It’s tough. But we should give this coach at least several years as long as he is doing the right things in the locker room and the kids are still fighting.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Oct 7, 2019 5:47:49 GMT -6
Obviously, some folks aren’t laughing. several years as long as he is doing the right things in the locker room and the kids are still fighting. I don't know if I would go that long. I'd say 2 seasons.
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Post by skeeter on Oct 7, 2019 5:54:43 GMT -6
Skeeter Quote of the Day
People in life think its about where you START and where you FINISH, but the PROCESS is what makes the start and finish viable. You have to understand when you are preparing for a game, the small things are just as important as the big things. They have to run hand and hand for you to be successful. You have to be a winner on the practice field each and every day before you will ever be a winner on the playing field.
Its all about the process and the leadership that gets you there.
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Oct 7, 2019 7:46:02 GMT -6
Nobody is getting fired. I hope we can make it through this season and start fresh next year with a full deck. I just hope it doesn't turn into a Rowell situation where we keep giving a coach another year and then another year to turn it around with no signs of improvement.
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