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Post by jonesoxygen on Apr 30, 2019 15:06:07 GMT -6
According to Cole Cubelic.
This will help solve the QB battle we have been discussing. I wish nothing but the best for the DG Bowl MVP
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Apr 30, 2019 15:34:15 GMT -6
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Post by Possum on Apr 30, 2019 15:37:16 GMT -6
WTF?!
Something smells rotten in that end zone facility...
I've never been a fan of (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of), but he's starting to hurt our program and if he continues he needs to be shown the door quickly
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Post by cornhole on Apr 30, 2019 15:42:01 GMT -6
WTF?! Something smells rotten in that end zone facility... I've never been a fan of (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of), but he's starting to hurt our program and if he continues he needs to be shown the door quickly Don't blame the coach. When you have 4 studs in the barn and the NCAA offers them a backdoor to another race... expect it. I was just wondering when this might happen, not IF. Best to Sawyer!!
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Apr 30, 2019 16:03:48 GMT -6
Thank God we still have Kaleb Barker... I hope. This is crazy. I NEVER would have suspected Sawyer Smith to transfer. I wonder why he's leaving?
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Post by cornhole on Apr 30, 2019 16:05:37 GMT -6
Thank God we still have Kaleb Barker... I hope. This is crazy. I NEVER would have suspected Sawyer Smith to transfer. I wonder why he's leaving? Competition at each position makes us better???
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Post by buzzlightyear on Apr 30, 2019 16:05:52 GMT -6
WTF?! Something smells rotten in that end zone facility... I've never been a fan of (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of), but he's starting to hurt our program and if he continues he needs to be shown the door quickly Don't blame the coach. When you have 4 studs in the barn and the NCAA offers them a backdoor to another race... expect it. I was just wondering when this might happen, not IF. Best to Sawyer!! No matter how you slice it Sawyer became a starter last year and did well. Now it is likely in his junior year he would be not starting and the following year pushed real hard by another quarterback that I think will Gunnar. So he is good and I am not sure if he will be the last. I too wish him well and if we donât lose someone else we are going to be fine. Kaleb was approaching special Last year and Sawyer probably saw that as well and his progress coming back. To be honest we had or have so many quarterbacks that a truck load of schools would love to have. Cornhole mentioned think UF with Urban in one of the threads. They and many more like them would have loved to have had one of our QBâs. Brandon was far superior to what many other schools have at QB. Sawyer is going to be a prize get by someone and we wish him well. It might just be a little selfish to say to a guy like that in this day and age: Suck it up and donât consider yourself. Of everyone in the Portal he actually makes sense and can not blame him. Wish it would not happen but I understand. As to loyalty he tried and it was not over but sometimes you can just tell how things are probably going to turn out.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Apr 30, 2019 17:06:00 GMT -6
I was vocal in my belief that the QB job was Kaleb's to lose, but I never expected this. If anyone should know this, it's Sawyer - as the the backup, you're only one play away from being the starter. With Kaleb's history of ACL issues, I think that would be even more the case. Now I have no way to know whether or not Sawyer would have been in the backup role. I think Kaleb had the edge, but I'm not on the field, in meetings, or in the locker room. I also don't know if Sawyer may have felt Watson was putting heat on him to move ahead of him on the depth chart. In addition to being surprised, I guess I'm confused. Sawyer is a winner, he proved it last year. Unless he knows something we don't, say for example he's been told he would be # 3 on the depth chart, I'm surprised he gave up on the completion for the top spot. Certainly a number of people on this board felt he had the edge to be the # 1 guy. I just don't get it. It seems to me he gave up, and that surprises me.
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Post by pctrojan16 on Apr 30, 2019 17:07:48 GMT -6
Next man. Don't wanna compete don't play.
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Post by Hemi Man on Apr 30, 2019 17:16:58 GMT -6
There’s always more to it than meets the eye. Sometimes things far removed from the playing field direct decisions about being on the field.
Nothing but best wishes for Sawyer Smith.
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Post by doc71 on Apr 30, 2019 17:23:46 GMT -6
Don't blame the coach. When you have 4 studs in the barn and the NCAA offers them a backdoor to another race... expect it. I was just wondering when this might happen, not IF. Best to Sawyer!! No matter how you slice it Sawyer became a starter last year and did well. Now it is likely in his junior year he would be not starting and the following year pushed real hard by another quarterback that I think will Gunnar. So he is good and I am not sure if he will be the last. I too wish him well and if we don’t lose someone else we are going to be fine. Kaleb was approaching special Last year and Sawyer probably saw that as well and his progress coming back. To be honest we had or have so many quarterbacks that a truck load of schools would love to have. Cornhole mentioned think UF with Urban in one of the threads. They and many more like them would have loved to have had one of our QB’s. Brandon was far superior to what many other schools have at QB. Sawyer is going to be a prize get by someone and we wish him well. It might just be a little selfish to say to a guy like that in this day and age: Suck it up and don’t consider yourself. Of everyone in the Portal he actually makes sense and can not blame him. Wish it would not happen but I understand. As to loyalty he tried and it was not over but sometimes you can just tell how things are probably going to turn out. Agree. Think highly of Sawyer and he's given his all for the years he's been here. I assume he's graduating ... and will be able to play right away. So, here's a guy who has been a great teammate and has played a big roll in Troy's success last few years. We all make choices ... cost/benefit analyses ... Can't blame him at all to take the opportunity to find a situation to be able to Play! I wish him well!
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Post by Troystet on Apr 30, 2019 18:39:24 GMT -6
Well the coaches are putting all their eggs on a qb with a bad knee and three others with a combined zero snaps between the three. Will be an interesting fall camp to say the least and I won't be surprised to see one of the three with zero snaps win the job
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Apr 30, 2019 19:05:26 GMT -6
Well the coaches are putting all their eggs on a qb with a bad knee and three others with a combined zero snaps between the three. Will be an interesting fall camp to say the least and I won't be surprised to see one of the three with zero snaps win the job I saw nothing that indicated Sawyer was dismissed from the team. This looks like a lot of speculation on your part to imply that this was a coaching decision. If you know something we don't, tell us.
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Post by Troystet on Apr 30, 2019 20:37:51 GMT -6
Well the coaches are putting all their eggs on a qb with a bad knee and three others with a combined zero snaps between the three. Will be an interesting fall camp to say the least and I won't be surprised to see one of the three with zero snaps win the job I saw nothing that indicated Sawyer was dismissed from the team. This looks like a lot of speculation on your part to imply that this was a coaching decision. If you know something we don't, tell us. Players transfer for A) aren't going to start and/or play B) don't like the coach and/or staff C) personal/family reason to be closer to home D) Grad transfer If you know of other reasons I'm open to hear
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Post by cornhole on Apr 30, 2019 21:07:20 GMT -6
Well the coaches are putting all their eggs on a qb with a bad knee and three others with a combined zero snaps between the three. Will be an interesting fall camp to say the least and I won't be surprised to see one of the three with zero snaps win the job You stated in another thread, the player that gives our team the best chance to win should start, regardless of Grade level. I agreed then, still do. With the portal option for athletes, coaches no longer hold all the eggs.. Doubt if they had a choice with Sawyer. Next step will be player compensation and then there you have it, NCAA Pro Ball. (it's all about the money, huge for NCAAU*) *Union
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Post by saintflorian on May 1, 2019 5:46:54 GMT -6
WTF?! Something smells rotten in that end zone facility... I've never been a fan of (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of), but he's starting to hurt our program and if he continues he needs to be shown the door quickly This is an inaccurate and irresponsible accusation based on zero facts. (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) is not the reason for Smith being in the Portal. The reason squarely sits on the shoulders of Smith.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on May 1, 2019 7:13:03 GMT -6
I highly suspect that most of these transfers will find out that the grass isn't greener somewhere else. Hopefully that curbs enthusiasm for future transfers.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on May 1, 2019 7:28:29 GMT -6
Giving guys a chance for a do-over does not prep them for life very well. If I could go back in time the #1 thing I would change would be the coddling I received and the 2nd chances I was given when they were not deserved. DT falling flat on his face a few times and learning to compete for what was best for my family and myself is the reason I am alive and successful today. So, I don't think this whole transfer portal is a good thing but it is the way of the world these days.
Like Hemi said. There is always more than meets the eye. Would taking his hits, figuring the issues he is facing out as is, and pushing through make him better for it 10 years from now? Probably. But, we want guys at Troy that want to be at Troy. If you no longer care to be then holla at ya on the flip.
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Post by cornhole on May 1, 2019 7:30:11 GMT -6
I highly suspect that most of these transfers will find out that the grass isn't greener somewhere else. Hopefully that curbs enthusiasm for future transfers. This ^^. cornhole visited updated site of announced transferees. Literally 100 or more, lots with no designated destination as yesterday. Hard for cornhole to fathom that many starting roles out there for these clown. May be boon for Div II and III?? Portal First Year Kool-Aid. (PFYKA). cool, refreshing taste wear off after year or two of reality. experiencer tell cornhole bird in hand better than bush league
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Post by tntrojan on May 1, 2019 8:02:00 GMT -6
Wonder how scholarship impacts all of this? Was Smith on a scholarship? Does that now mean we have one to give? Are any of those in the portal from other schools considering Troy?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Post by jonesoxygen on May 1, 2019 8:06:00 GMT -6
I don't understand all the anger towards Sawyer. He lost the starting job last season to a more mobile QB, he then got the job back when Barker was hurt and did everything he could to keep this ship on the water rather than sinking it. We have 5 scholarship QB's and we all knew at least 1 would transfer, possibly 2. I thought he would enter the portal immediately after winning MVP of the DG bowl. The NCAA has created this monster, Sawyer is taking advantage of the situation presented to him. I wish him the best and thank him for what he did last season.
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Post by saintflorian on May 1, 2019 8:08:26 GMT -6
I was vocal in my belief that the QB job was Kaleb's to lose, but I never expected this. If anyone should know this, it's Sawyer - as the the backup, you're only one play away from being the starter. With Kaleb's history of ACL issues, I think that would be even more the case. Now I have no way to know whether or not Sawyer would have been in the backup role. I think Kaleb had the edge, but I'm not on the field, in meetings, or in the locker room. I also don't know if Sawyer may have felt Watson was putting heat on him to move ahead of him on the depth chart. In addition to being surprised, I guess I'm confused. Sawyer is a winner, he proved it last year. Unless he knows something we don't, say for example he's been told he would be # 3 on the depth chart, I'm surprised he gave up on the completion for the top spot. Certainly a number of people on this board felt he had the edge to be the # 1 guy. I just don't get it. It seems to me he gave up, and that surprises me. - Bubba, Watson impressed a lot of people, suspect he is #2 (or#2b). Word is he is ready to take off. For all, Smith wants to be #1. He has intense competition at Troy that he has decided not to embrace. His life is his own. Good luck son. - Let’s move on, he is no longer part of the program. Let’s discuss the kids that want to be Trojans.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on May 1, 2019 8:13:39 GMT -6
I don't understand all the anger towards Sawyer. He lost the starting job last season to a more mobile QB, he then got the job back when Barker was hurt and did everything he could to keep this ship on the water rather than sinking it. We have 5 scholarship QB's and we all knew at least 1 would transfer, possibly 2. I thought he would enter the portal immediately after winning MVP of the DG bowl. The NCAA has created this monster, Sawyer is taking advantage of the situation presented to him. I wish him the best and thank him for what he did last season. I'm not angry with him, I think he did a great job last season. I'm just curious what the ends result of Folsom, Jones, and Smith's transfers are going to be. They may not be afforded the opportunities they desire. it's a gamble. Not against the decision, I just hope they know the odds of being successful after transfer.
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Post by cornhole on May 1, 2019 9:22:55 GMT -6
Wonder how scholarship impacts all of this? Was Smith on a scholarship? Does that now mean we have one to give? Are any of those in the portal from other schools considering Troy? Inquiring minds want to know. www.ncaa.org/student-athletes/current/want-transferexcerpts: "If you participate in sports at a Division I or II school, enroll at a second four-year school and then return to the first school, you may use an exception to compete immediately at the first school if you did not practice or compete at the second school." Several risks noted: • Once notification of transfer is signed, your current school has the right to reduce or cancel your financial aid at the
end of the academic term. (Read more about the financial aid proposal on ncaa.org.) • After notification, your original school is not obligated to take you back as a student-athlete. • Failure to follow the listed steps may result in NCAA violations.
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Post by trojan2003 on May 1, 2019 10:23:47 GMT -6
If this is true, it’s quite disappointing. We will have get used to it, probably more transfers to come...
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