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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Mar 26, 2019 9:58:18 GMT -6
Looks like former UT-Arlington head coach Scott Cross is going to be the new head coach.
This may be a great hire.
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Post by Vegastrojan on Mar 26, 2019 9:59:42 GMT -6
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Post by atlantatrojan on Mar 26, 2019 10:09:33 GMT -6
I like this hire. Proven winner
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Mar 26, 2019 10:31:04 GMT -6
For those that aren't familiar with him, he's a young coach at only 44 years old. Here's a rundown of what he did at UT-Arlington:
* Defeated a lot of big-name teams between 2006 and 2017, such as: Wichita State, Ohio State, #12 St. Mary's College, Memphis, Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico State, BYU (twice), and lost on a buzzer-beater to #25 Alabama two season ago.
* Took his teams to the NCAA Tourney once, the NIT twice, and the CIT twice. Just two seasons ago he lead UTA to a first-round NIT win over BYU, and then defeated Akron in second-round before falling in the Quarterfinals to Cal State-Bakersfield. The year before that, he made it to the CIT Quarterfinals.
* Had five 20+ win seasons in only 12 seasons of being a head coach.
* Only had 3 losing seasons in his 12 seasons at UT-Arlington.
* Won two Southland Conference titles in 2008 and 2012, and won a Sun Belt title in 2017.
* Was named Sun Belt Coach of the Year in 2017.
* Was a finalist for the Hugh Durham Award (Mid-Major Coach of the Year award) and a finalist for the Prosser Man of the Year Award (for coaches who exhibit strong moral character).
* Had two players make it on to NBA teams, one of which was a 2nd Round Draft Pick last year.
* His 2016 UTA team was #1 in the nation in rebounding. Sound familiar?
* Here is how UTA's average home attendance improved over the years with Cross as head coach:
2007 - 504 2008 - 889 2009 - 848 2010 - 756 2011 - 811 2012 - 2,131 2013 - 1,968 2014 - 1,872 2015 - 2,051 2016 - 4,532 2017 - 2,798 2018 - 2,345
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Post by Possum on Mar 26, 2019 10:44:09 GMT -6
Very nice.
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Post by chattvalleytrojan on Mar 26, 2019 11:04:19 GMT -6
Like Ho has said just doesn't move the needle much for me. Only place he's been is UTA other than TCU last year. Never been with an elite program or coach. Also under a .600 career winning percentage. Hope he proves me wrong.
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Post by cornhole on Mar 26, 2019 11:07:43 GMT -6
Can’t understand this, not Mississippi enough for you clowns?
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Post by atlantatrojan on Mar 26, 2019 11:12:23 GMT -6
Like Ho has said just doesn't move the needle much for me. Only place he's been is UTA other than TCU last year. Never been with an elite program or coach. Also under a .600 career winning percentage. Hope he proves me wrong. An elite program coach isn’t coming here unless he just sucked a big one or is an assistant Atleast Cross has 9 winning seasons and was very well liked even when he was let go. The UTA fans right now are slightly envious of us.
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Post by Possum on Mar 26, 2019 11:48:27 GMT -6
I'm surprised he has no Mississippi connections... But, I'm actually excited about this hire.
Let's put our facilities to good use now!
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Post by chattvalleytrojan on Mar 26, 2019 11:52:25 GMT -6
Like Ho has said just doesn't move the needle much for me. Only place he's been is UTA other than TCU last year. Never been with an elite program or coach. Also under a .600 career winning percentage. Hope he proves me wrong. An elite program coach isn’t coming here unless he just sucked a big one or is an assistant Atleast Cross has 9 winning seasons and was very well liked even when he was let go. The UTA fans right now are slightly envious of us. I wanted an assistant from a team that's in the Sweet 16 and won a natty in the last couple years and has HC experience with all walk-ons. This hire doesn't bring as much as excitement as I wanted the hire to do. But I'd be glad to be wrong.
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Post by saintflorian on Mar 26, 2019 12:05:13 GMT -6
An elite program coach isn’t coming here unless he just sucked a big one or is an assistant Atleast Cross has 9 winning seasons and was very well liked even when he was let go. The UTA fans right now are slightly envious of us. I wanted an assistant from a team that's in the Sweet 16 and won a natty in the last couple years and has HC experience with all walk-ons. This hire doesn't bring as much as excitement as I wanted the hire to do. But I'd be glad to be wrong. You have a delusional viewpoint of how attractive you think the Troy gig is. The Hubert Davis’ of the world are not coming to Troy. Do you really care where he came from. He has one job, win and win a lot. Judge him on that.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Mar 26, 2019 12:26:00 GMT -6
Like Ho has said just doesn't move the needle much for me. Only place he's been is UTA other than TCU last year. Never been with an elite program or coach. Also under a .600 career winning percentage. Hope he proves me wrong. Needing to have previous experience in basketball is a whole lot different than other sports. There are A LOT of assistants that have been hired from NBA teams and big-time basketball programs to be head coaches, that wind up never having a winning record as a head coach. It's actually considered a better get if you can find an available coach that already has successful head coaching experience. Getting Scott Cross before any other programs came calling is a pretty big deal.
You don't need a lot of big-school experience to be a good coach in today's basketball.
Phil Cunningham had assistant experience at Mississippi State when they were having a lot of success, and was considered one of the best recruiters in the country... and that got us nowhere. Even look at when FIU hired Isaiah Thomas, who was an NBA head coach that took his Pacer teams to the NBA Playoffs three times. Everyone thought he would turn FIU into a big time basketball school... he was fired after three seasons because he could barely win 10 games each season.
Some examples of guys that were never assistants at big schools are Mark Few, Ron Hunter, Ray Harper, Bob Knight, Jim Boehim, and even our own Chanda Rigby.
Heck, Mark Few was only a grad assistant and then an assistant at Gonzaga for 10 years. Gonzaga had only been to the NCAA Tourney two times before he took over. Then he took over, and has taken them the NCAA's every year and has turned them into a national power. Rigby hasn't even been an assistant at a Division I school, and only had JUCO experience before coming straight into a D1 head coaching job at Troy... and she's been awesome.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Mar 26, 2019 17:59:04 GMT -6
Like Ho has said just doesn't move the needle much for me. Only place he's been is UTA other than TCU last year. Never been with an elite program or coach. Also under a .600 career winning percentage. Hope he proves me wrong. Ho be honest, this hire intrigues Ho. Hi read about his leaving UTA. Sound like their Dear Leader is a total clown. 1 NCAA. Two NIT. 1 CBI. His team He knows we have the facilities because he stomped us a few times there. Might have a vendetta to pay. I'm willing to bet he called AD Whatshisname pretty quickly. One interesting thought...bringing Fort Worth Christian to the Brick Box.
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Post by cornhole on Mar 26, 2019 20:45:34 GMT -6
Like Ho has said just doesn't move the needle much for me. Only place he's been is UTA other than TCU last year. Never been with an elite program or coach. Also under a .600 career winning percentage. Hope he proves me wrong. Ho be honest, this hire intrigues Ho. Hi read about his leaving UTA. Sound like their Dear Leader is a total clown. 1 NCAA. Two NIT. 1 CBI. His team He knows we have the facilities because he stomped us a few times there. Might have a vendetta to pay. I'm willing to bet he called AD Whatshisname pretty quickly. One interesting thought...bringing Fort Worth Christian to the Brick Box. ho know
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Post by Troystet on Mar 27, 2019 10:43:19 GMT -6
Curious as to why UTA let him go?
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Post by Possum on Mar 27, 2019 11:05:38 GMT -6
From what I've read, no one knows why he was let go.
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Post by Troystet on Mar 27, 2019 11:41:54 GMT -6
From what I've read, no one knows why he was let go. Coach of the year in 2017 and let go in 2018? Mucho Huevos to their AD for that dumb call. Cunnigham hung around for 6 seasons with a .400 winning %
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Mar 27, 2019 12:38:14 GMT -6
Here you go, straight from the horse's mouth...
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Mar 27, 2019 13:08:38 GMT -6
Basically, him getting fired was about him not getting his team to the NCAA Tournament over his last three seasons, despite the successful 20+ win seasons, NIT run, and win over a top-25 team.
UTA had an NBA draft pick that was one of the best players in the nation, on top of having some other great talent, so UTA's new AD had high expectations that were probably irrational. He was able to go 24-11, 27-9, and 21-13 with that team those last three years, but unfortunately for him, his team lost in the finals of the SBC Tournament to Georgia State in his last season as head coach.
According to a UTA fan on the Sun Belt board, the CBI had sent an invite to UTA for postseason play, but the new AD turned it down because of his decision to already fire Cross, despite the possibility that UTA could've won the CBI.
His 2017 team won the Sun Belt regular season title, and was considered one of the teams on the bubble of the NCAA Tournament that was left out. They had a #40 RPI with 4 wins over teams that were in the NCAA Tourney, with their best win being against a #17 St. Mary's College. If they would've made it into the NCAA Tourney that year, he'd probably still be head coach at UTA.
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Mar 27, 2019 16:07:56 GMT -6
At this point a winning season at Troy would be considered a victory. I wish Coach Cross the best of luck.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Mar 27, 2019 19:16:19 GMT -6
From what I've read, no one knows why he was let go. Because their AD Whatshisname smoke crack
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Post by atlantatrojan on Mar 27, 2019 21:53:26 GMT -6
Everything happens for a reason. UTAs loss is our gain. See ya in the NCAA’s!
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Post by Troystet on Mar 28, 2019 7:44:37 GMT -6
Excited to see how he recruits and adjusts his recruiting to Troy. Recruiting a kid to Dallas is going to be different than recruiting to Troy so I'm looking forward to what we can bring in. One plus is he coached a NBA draft pick so we have that going for us in recruiting. Positive is there is a zero chance he is worse than PC so upward and onward to Trojan basketball
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Post by Mr. Ho on Mar 28, 2019 9:45:50 GMT -6
Excited to see how he recruits and adjusts his recruiting to Troy. Recruiting a kid to Dallas is going to be different than recruiting to Troy so I'm looking forward to what we can bring in. One plus is he coached a NBA draft pick so we have that going for us in recruiting. Positive is there is a zero chance he is worse than PC so upward and onward to Trojan basketball Biggest difference is he's actually won some pretty big games. And one win away from the NIT Final Four. Watching those videos reminds me of the last football coach we had.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Mar 28, 2019 10:48:27 GMT -6
Just watched the press conference announcing Scott Cross and I am blown away. Great choice Jeremy! I'm really excited to see what he does with this program.
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