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Post by bulldogtrojan on Dec 5, 2018 16:53:39 GMT -6
A friend of mine said Nashville sports talk radio is all a buzz about NB going to UT as OC. Todd Watson is on that staff as Director of Ops and went there from Troy.
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Post by doc71 on Dec 5, 2018 17:08:26 GMT -6
I can't imagine that would be true ... wouldn't make any sense. He's done the P5 OC gig a couple times. Maybe it's just a slow sports day in Nashville? I'm still a bit worrried about the Ga Tech job though.
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Post by trojan2003 on Dec 5, 2018 17:14:15 GMT -6
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 5, 2018 17:15:03 GMT -6
A friend of mine said Nashville sports talk radio is all a buzz about NB going to UT as OC. Todd Watson is on that staff as Director of Ops and went there from Troy. please quit smoking angel dust....
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Dec 5, 2018 17:18:13 GMT -6
I'm not too sure I'm worried about GT. Because they have been an option team for so long, their personnel wouldn't fit into CNB's offensive scheme...at least I don't think so. If he went to GT, it would require a complete retool and, having just got through that process in Troy, I would think he'd be hesitant to do the same at GT. That said, that opinion and $3.50 will get a medium latte at Dunkin'.
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Post by trojans91 on Dec 5, 2018 17:35:06 GMT -6
I don't see him leaving for a Power 5 coordinators job. GA Tech a no go as well. I'm sure we have him for another year.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 5, 2018 17:47:35 GMT -6
I'm not too sure I'm worried about GT. Because they have been an option team for so long, their personnel wouldn't fit into CNB's offensive scheme...at least I don't think so. If he went to GT, it would require a complete retool and, having just got through that process in Troy, I would think he'd be hesitant to do the same at GT. That said, that opinion and $3.50 will get a medium latte at Dunkin'. over $3million a year and guarantees that allow for these “retooling” years, in arguably the weakest Power 5 conference. That might be a challenge CNB might find intriguing and rewarding. He is a young guy.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 5, 2018 19:07:41 GMT -6
I'm not too sure I'm worried about GT. Because they have been an option team for so long, their personnel wouldn't fit into CNB's offensive scheme...at least I don't think so. If he went to GT, it would require a complete retool and, having just got through that process in Troy, I would think he'd be hesitant to do the same at GT. That said, that opinion and $3.50 will get a medium latte at Dunkin'. Paul Johnson's deal at GaTech has been in the $3mill range. Having said that, Tech is the 2nd lowest funded athletic dept in the ACC, second to last place Wake Forest.
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Post by troyjan95 on Dec 5, 2018 21:45:30 GMT -6
LA Chargers OC Whisenhunt offered Tech job - 24 hours to respond per the interweb and tweeter - so who knows if true
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Post by jonesoxygen on Dec 6, 2018 8:03:02 GMT -6
Settle down peeps, I read what the genius wrote in Tennessee. The fact that this poor soul actually thinks it's possible that CNB would take that gig tells me this dude is really "in the know". There is a better chance that I get hired as the OC at Bama than there is that CNB goes to UT as an OC at this point in his career. My favorite quote, "he's done about all he can do at Troy"
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Post by bilible on Dec 6, 2018 9:09:12 GMT -6
Tennessee must be in worse shape intellectually than I previously thought. Hey! Lets hire a guy who's team has scored one touchdown in nine quarters as our new O.C. does that make a hell of alot of sense?
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Dec 6, 2018 10:18:34 GMT -6
Tennessee must be in worse shape intellectually than I previously thought. Hey! Lets hire a guy who's team has scored one touchdown in nine quarters as our new O.C. does that make a hell of alot of sense?
Troll
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Post by troyjan95 on Dec 6, 2018 10:44:55 GMT -6
Tennessee must be in worse shape intellectually than I previously thought. Hey! Lets hire a guy who's team has scored one touchdown in nine quarters as our new O.C. does that make a hell of alot of sense?
Not a terrible statement to make. Makes sense on the surface. I would argue that considering the TEAM only had 1 touchdown in 9 quarters and they won 2 and lost 1 - pretty darn good Against TX State - only needed 3 field goals to win - we got 4 AND the leading Receiver in the conference was not in the game or at least had 0 touches based on stats - can't remember if Willis played AND Sidney Davis went down AND Douglas was out AND Letton was out AND we were playing a 2nd String QB AND a linemen went down - Pretty dadgum good coaching job - The OC managed the game and won it - not about stats and scoring a ton - very conservative due to circumstances in my opinion App State - see above - team was riddled with injuries and I am not making excuses but Davis was banged up and so was Douglas - two productive guys - And App is our conference champ so it's not like we were playing chumps - they are a very good team - and we turned the ball over what 3 to 4 times so while our offense was not productive at the end - i say take any team and start your 2nd team at every receiver position, qb and one on the line (or starters only at 75%) and your production is going to go down - just a fact Neal Browns record as OC at Troy, Texas Tech, Kentucky and again at Troy speaks for itself.
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Dec 6, 2018 12:01:21 GMT -6
Tennessee must be in worse shape intellectually than I previously thought. Hey! Lets hire a guy who's team has scored one touchdown in nine quarters as our new O.C. does that make a hell of alot of sense?
Not a terrible statement to make. Makes sense on the surface. I would argue that considering the TEAM only had 1 touchdown in 9 quarters and they won 2 and lost 1 - pretty darn good Against TX State - only needed 3 field goals to win - we got 4 AND the leading Receiver in the conference was not in the game or at least had 0 touches based on stats - can't remember if Willis played AND Sidney Davis went down AND Douglas was out AND Letton was out AND we were playing a 2nd String QB AND a linemen went down - Pretty dadgum good coaching job - The OC managed the game and won it - not about stats and scoring a ton - very conservative due to circumstances in my opinion App State - see above - team was riddled with injuries and I am not making excuses but Davis was banged up and so was Douglas - two productive guys - And App is our conference champ so it's not like we were playing chumps - they are a very good team - and we turned the ball over what 3 to 4 times so while our offense was not productive at the end - i say take any team and start your 2nd team at every receiver position, qb and one on the line (or starters only at 75%) and your production is going to go down - just a fact Neal Browns record as OC at Troy, Texas Tech, Kentucky and again at Troy speaks for itself. How dare you bring facts into this argument sir!
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 6, 2018 12:06:30 GMT -6
Not a terrible statement to make. Makes sense on the surface. I would argue that considering the TEAM only had 1 touchdown in 9 quarters and they won 2 and lost 1 - pretty darn good Against TX State - only needed 3 field goals to win - we got 4 AND the leading Receiver in the conference was not in the game or at least had 0 touches based on stats - can't remember if Willis played AND Sidney Davis went down AND Douglas was out AND Letton was out AND we were playing a 2nd String QB AND a linemen went down - Pretty dadgum good coaching job - The OC managed the game and won it - not about stats and scoring a ton - very conservative due to circumstances in my opinion App State - see above - team was riddled with injuries and I am not making excuses but Davis was banged up and so was Douglas - two productive guys - And App is our conference champ so it's not like we were playing chumps - they are a very good team - and we turned the ball over what 3 to 4 times so while our offense was not productive at the end - i say take any team and start your 2nd team at every receiver position, qb and one on the line (or starters only at 75%) and your production is going to go down - just a fact Neal Browns record as OC at Troy, Texas Tech, Kentucky and again at Troy speaks for itself. How dare you bring facts into this argument sir! Oh man I love the facts! In all honesty, ties fact is probably why we still have CNB.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 6, 2018 16:52:23 GMT -6
Injuries hurt but the second string qb excuse doesn't hold water. He's been in the system for three years and had game experience so it's not like we put in a walk on true freshman. UCF lost arguably one of the top four qbs in the country who had won 24 straight games. The 2nd string qb comes in and has lit up the scoreboard the last two games.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 6, 2018 17:21:32 GMT -6
Tennessee must be in worse shape intellectually than I previously thought. Hey! Lets hire a guy who's team has scored one touchdown in nine quarters as our new O.C. does that make a hell of alot of sense?
Let’s see you have three or four starters out and at least one playing with an injury, so it’s likely that the production will drop. (Unless it’s on your favorite gaming console). Now a great offensive coordinator turned head coach is caught in a dilemma. Should he be stubborn and run his offense that he knows and loves or should he be the head man and put his team in the best possible situation to win? You have a very good defense that can possibly protect your beaten, battered, and bruised offense. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn’t. Here’s a thought. Maybe Neal Brown is a hell of a lot smarter than some of the moronic posters on this board?
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Post by joshboutwell on Dec 6, 2018 17:28:29 GMT -6
Seems like a lot more talk coming out here. Supposedly 2 million to come be the OC (I dont know if I could believe that). We will surely know more in the next week or so I would imagine.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 6, 2018 17:58:37 GMT -6
Tennessee must be in worse shape intellectually than I previously thought. Hey! Lets hire a guy who's team has scored one touchdown in nine quarters as our new O.C. does that make a hell of alot of sense?
Let’s see you have three or four starters out and at least one playing with an injury, so it’s likely that the production will drop. (Unless it’s on your favorite gaming console). Now a great offensive coordinator turned head coach is caught in a dilemma. Should he be stubborn and run his offense that he knows and loves or should he be the head man and put his team in the best possible situation to win? You have a very good defense that can possibly protect your beaten, battered, and bruised offense. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn’t. Here’s a thought. Maybe Neal Brown is a hell of a lot smarter than some of the moronic posters on this board? Moe-Rons. Isn't that how that SEC TV/Radio pundit calls it? I'd rather be a Moe-Ron than moronic poster child on this board.
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Post by chasin170 on Dec 7, 2018 7:15:40 GMT -6
I’m not up on CNB contract particulars but I don’t see TN paying a large buyout for an OC position,if that’s applicable.
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Post by troyjan95 on Dec 7, 2018 9:03:10 GMT -6
Injuries hurt but the second string qb excuse doesn't hold water. He's been in the system for three years and had game experience so it's not like we put in a walk on true freshman. UCF lost arguably one of the top four qbs in the country who had won 24 straight games. The 2nd string qb comes in and has lit up the scoreboard the last two games. Ok but you are playing with different receivers - timing - wet football, etc. - there are a lot of excuses but we did not have the bullets to go with the gun - yes he could fire 1 but not all bullets - he didn't have them
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 7, 2018 9:47:40 GMT -6
Injuries hurt but the second string qb excuse doesn't hold water. He's been in the system for three years and had game experience so it's not like we put in a walk on true freshman. UCF lost arguably one of the top four qbs in the country who had won 24 straight games. The 2nd string qb comes in and has lit up the scoreboard the last two games. Ok but you are playing with different receivers - timing - wet football, etc. - there are a lot of excuses but we did not have the bullets to go with the gun - yes he could fire 1 but not all bullets - he didn't have them All valid points on both sides. But we still give out 85 scholarships and most don’t expect when you do run into challenges like we have we don’t go from a machine gun to a squirt gun. I think how far to the bottom we dropped in production was extreme and disconnecting to expectations.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 7, 2018 12:09:01 GMT -6
Ok but you are playing with different receivers - timing - wet football, etc. - there are a lot of excuses but we did not have the bullets to go with the gun - yes he could fire 1 but not all bullets - he didn't have them All valid points on both sides. But we still give out 85 scholarships and most don’t expect when you do run into challenges like we have we don’t go from a machine gun to a squirt gun. I think how far to the bottom we dropped in production was extreme and disconnecting to expectations. Who’s expectations? You and the message board geeks that expect the 2’s and 3’s to maintain the same level of production as the 1’s? Does that even make sense? There’s a reason why some guys start over others. Use common sense. Troy played one team with a winning record and one 6-6 team the first six games. Troy faced one bowl team. Oddly enough Troy was 5-1 versus those six teams. In the last six Troy was 4-2 while playing 3 teams with winning records and one 6-6 teams. The loss to Liberty was ugly. The offense was out of whack and Tron Folsom was sorely missed on defense. Troy faced three bowl teams in second half the season with multiple starters out. All in all it’s been a pretty good season so far.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 7, 2018 12:19:06 GMT -6
Ok but you are playing with different receivers - timing - wet football, etc. - there are a lot of excuses but we did not have the bullets to go with the gun - yes he could fire 1 but not all bullets - he didn't have them All valid points on both sides. But we still give out 85 scholarships and most don’t expect when you do run into challenges like we have we don’t go from a machine gun to a squirt gun. I think how far to the bottom we dropped in production was extreme and disconnecting to expectations. Who’s expectations? You and the message board geeks that expect the 2’s and 3’s to maintain the same level of production as the 1’s? Does that even make sense? There’s a reason why some guys start over others. Use common sense. Troy played one team with a winning record and one 6-6 team the first six games. Troy faced one bowl team. Oddly enough Troy was 5-1 versus those six teams. In the last six Troy was 4-2 while playing 3 teams with winning records and one 6-6 teams. The loss to Liberty was ugly. The offense was out of whack and Tron Folsom was sorely missed on defense. Troy faced three bowl teams in second half the season with multiple starters out. All in all it’s been a pretty good season so far.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 7, 2018 12:31:52 GMT -6
All valid points on both sides. But we still give out 85 scholarships and most don’t expect when you do run into challenges like we have we don’t go from a machine gun to a squirt gun. I think how far to the bottom we dropped in production was extreme and disconnecting to expectations. Who’s expectations? You and the message board geeks that expect the 2’s and 3’s to maintain the same level of production as the 1’s? Does that even make sense? There’s a reason why some guys start over others. Use common sense. Troy played one team with a winning record and one 6-6 team the first six games. Troy faced one bowl team. Oddly enough Troy was 5-1 versus those six teams. In the last six Troy was 4-2 while playing 3 teams with winning records and one 6-6 teams. The loss to Liberty was ugly. The offense was out of whack and Tron Folsom was sorely missed on defense. Troy faced three bowl teams in second half the season with multiple starters out. All in all it’s been a pretty good season so far. I was responding and just trying to provide my insight on my beloved Trojans. No need to call anyone names and attempt to be belligerent to others when just having conversations. The message board “geeks” you refer to are great supporters of the Trojan program. Yes, every fan of the program has their own set of expectations, this is very normal throughout any fandom and frankly makes it fun to debate. I have a large circle of alumni and part of several groups that a have alot of fans of Troy, and a lot are indeed surprised that our offense went from a 9 out of 10 to a 1 out of 10 due to a few injuries. Like I said above it was the amount of the fall that surprised a lot of fans. I think you saw that also on this board from a lot of people who go and support the program. The Liberty dumpster fire also surprised a lot of supporters from a program that has now been well established under CNB. Our QB play after Barker went down was especially troubling since our top 2 QB coming into the year, according to CNB were inseparable until the every end of Fall practice. Go TROY and join the Alumni Association folks, we need ya.
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