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Post by saintflorian on Jan 11, 2018 9:33:32 GMT -6
Holy cow, if this is your counter to why he is ready, thank you for proving my point that he is not ready. Good coach. But he is not ready. For giggles, who on our staff is ready if Neal would have left last night. None. For return giggles, look at Neal Brown’s resume before taking the Troy job. You see good success at major positions at major programs. At a bare minimum these are the qualifications we should at least attempt to quantify for the position of our HC.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Jan 11, 2018 10:04:21 GMT -6
For giggles, who on our staff is ready if Neal would have left last night. None. For return giggles, look at Neal Brown’s resume before taking the Troy job. You see good success at major positions at major programs. At a bare minimum these are the qualifications we should at least attempt to quantify for the position of our HC. Awesome, so if Neal had left, our only option is to find someone who was fired from another program to take over. Not someone who has been with this team everyday for the last 3 years. Better yet, the keyboard coaches from this board should fill the role quiet nicely.
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Post by saintflorian on Jan 11, 2018 10:16:20 GMT -6
None. For return giggles, look at Neal Brown’s resume before taking the Troy job. You see good success at major positions at major programs. At a bare minimum these are the qualifications we should at least attempt to quantify for the position of our HC. Awesome, so if Neal had left, our only option is to find someone who was fired from another program to take over. Not someone who has been with this team everyday for the last 3 years. Better yet, the keyboard coaches from this board should fill the role quiet nicely. Why not find another Neal Brown type? He wasn’t fired. He hadn’t been with Troy for years. Your irrational response backs up the fact you might want your pick for personal reasons instead of professional ones. To recap you want to promote our LB and Special teams coach to HC if CNB leaves. Yeah, ok.
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Post by Hemi Man on Jan 11, 2018 10:27:41 GMT -6
You can tell who is around the program in this thread and who isn’t.
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Post by Troystet on Jan 11, 2018 11:05:41 GMT -6
None. For return giggles, look at Neal Brown’s resume before taking the Troy job. You see good success at major positions at major programs. At a bare minimum these are the qualifications we should at least attempt to quantify for the position of our HC. Awesome, so if Neal had left, our only option is to find someone who was fired from another program to take over. Not someone who has been with this team everyday for the last 3 years. Better yet, the keyboard coaches from this board should fill the role quiet nicely. Its a gamble promoting from with in the program. I've seen both sides to this. Gailey wins 1984 Nat Championship and he left and Rhodes got promoted and wins another Nat Championship in 1987. Rhodes leaves and Maddox is promoted and we go 4-6, 4-6, 5-5 and then we bring in a outsider named Larry Blakney. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. if it works you continue (Rhodes), if it doesn't you erase what you built. If Neal left its a good bet he takes his staff with him with the exception lets say we hire Summarall. He then has to go hire a entire staff so in effect we bring in outsiders.
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Post by bulldogtrojan on Jan 11, 2018 11:15:20 GMT -6
I believe when Neal Brown leaves, it will be on good terms. I'm sure he will, if asked, provide input on who would be a good fit. He will not want what he has done to go backwards.
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Post by saintflorian on Jan 11, 2018 11:20:09 GMT -6
You can tell who is around the program in this thread and who isn’t. This from a guy who thought that Rowell was doing an excellent job as DC and thought Rowell should have succeeded CLB after he left.
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Post by Hemi Man on Jan 11, 2018 11:22:07 GMT -6
You can tell who is around the program in this thread and who isn’t. This from a guy who thought that Rowell was doing an excellent job as DC and thought Rowell should have succeeded CLB after he left. Keyboard AD hard at work.
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Post by saintflorian on Jan 11, 2018 11:28:33 GMT -6
This from a guy who thought that Rowell was doing an excellent job as DC and thought Rowell should have succeeded CLB after he left. Keyboard AD hard at work. Keyboard meteorologist at work, oh wait, you are terrible at that also.
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Post by Hemi Man on Jan 11, 2018 12:07:16 GMT -6
Keyboard AD hard at work. Keyboard meteorologist at work, oh wait, you are terrible at that also. Those who do know never tip off those that don’t.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jan 11, 2018 13:04:02 GMT -6
Keyboard AD hard at work. Keyboard meteorologist at work, oh wait, you are terrible at that also. No that was me and I had to blame my zoological friends .
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Post by saintflorian on Jan 11, 2018 15:00:41 GMT -6
Keyboard meteorologist at work, oh wait, you are terrible at that also. No that was me and I had to blame my zoological friends . Please for safety of your neighbors, get back on your daily medications. We promise that is not Elvis in the sky waving to you, he will go away once your take your magic pills.
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Post by cornhole on Jan 11, 2018 21:51:40 GMT -6
You can tell who is around the program in this thread and who isn’t. This from a guy who thought that Rowell was doing an excellent job as DC and thought Rowell should have succeeded CLB after he left. This post is very revealing. You're full of ()it.
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Post by saintflorian on Jan 12, 2018 6:46:09 GMT -6
This from a guy who thought that Rowell was doing an excellent job as DC and thought Rowell should have succeeded CLB after he left. This post is very revealing. You're full of ()it. Nope. Accurate. Sad.
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Post by Troystet on Jan 12, 2018 7:53:37 GMT -6
I say that the name Rowell never be brought up again. It causes PTSD especially memories of FIU in 2010, Navy in 2011, Georgia (11-13?), Tennessee in 2012
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Post by jonesoxygen on Jan 12, 2018 8:33:56 GMT -6
Awesome, so if Neal had left, our only option is to find someone who was fired from another program to take over. Not someone who has been with this team everyday for the last 3 years. Better yet, the keyboard coaches from this board should fill the role quiet nicely. Why not find another Neal Brown type? He wasn’t fired. He hadn’t been with Troy for years. Your irrational response backs up the fact you might want your pick for personal reasons instead of professional ones. To recap you want to promote our LB and Special teams coach to HC if CNB leaves. Yeah, ok. I wish I had a clue as to what "personal reason" I might have. Is this like when everyone said Hemi and Rowell were related? Is it the fall back answer? I have no personal reason.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Jan 12, 2018 9:26:21 GMT -6
Awesome, so if Neal had left, our only option is to find someone who was fired from another program to take over. Not someone who has been with this team everyday for the last 3 years. Better yet, the keyboard coaches from this board should fill the role quiet nicely. Why not find another Neal Brown type? He wasn’t fired. He hadn’t been with Troy for years. Your irrational response backs up the fact you might want your pick for personal reasons instead of professional ones. To recap you want to promote our LB and Special teams coach to HC if CNB leaves. Yeah, ok. Add assistant head coach to that resume. You know who else was "just" a position coach and assistant head coach before being moved up to the head role: He's done pretty well there without head coaching or coordinator experience. It can be done.
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Post by saintflorian on Jan 12, 2018 9:38:54 GMT -6
I say that the name Rowell never be brought up again. It causes PTSD especially memories of FIU in 2010, Navy in 2011, Georgia (11-13?), Tennessee in 2012 No. We must remember the past in order that we don’t repeat it.
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Post by gotroygo on Jan 12, 2018 9:41:13 GMT -6
I say that the name Rowell never be brought up again. It causes PTSD especially memories of FIU in 2010, Navy in 2011, Georgia (11-13?), Tennessee in 2012 No. We must remember the past in order that we don’t repeat it. I still have PTSD from his INT in the Georgia Southern game.
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Post by saintflorian on Jan 12, 2018 9:43:32 GMT -6
Why not find another Neal Brown type? He wasn’t fired. He hadn’t been with Troy for years. Your irrational response backs up the fact you might want your pick for personal reasons instead of professional ones. To recap you want to promote our LB and Special teams coach to HC if CNB leaves. Yeah, ok. Add assistant head coach to that resume. You know who else was "just" a position coach and assistant head coach before being moved up to the head role: He's done pretty well there without head coaching or coordinator experience. It can be done. Fair point foulpole. They definitely caught lightning in a bottle with that one but that was the rare exception not the rule. The college football graveyard is littered with position coaches failing miserably when being moved up to the coordinator position much less the rare times to head coach. It’s just not the time for Troy to take a 100 to 1 shot when we have so many other proven commodities available to us.
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Post by pctrojan16 on Jan 12, 2018 9:57:11 GMT -6
He's not leaving yet. We have him another year. Can't we all be happy
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Post by Hemi Man on Jan 12, 2018 11:04:32 GMT -6
Why not find another Neal Brown type? He wasn’t fired. He hadn’t been with Troy for years. Your irrational response backs up the fact you might want your pick for personal reasons instead of professional ones. To recap you want to promote our LB and Special teams coach to HC if CNB leaves. Yeah, ok. I wish I had a clue as to what "personal reason" I might have. Is this like when everyone said Hemi and Rowell were related? Is it the fall back answer? I have no personal reason. It’s their response when they really have no clue what they’re talking about.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Jan 12, 2018 11:37:01 GMT -6
Let me get a jump on the hysteria following the 2018 season...NO MIKE TURK.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Jan 12, 2018 13:56:18 GMT -6
Add assistant head coach to that resume. You know who else was "just" a position coach and assistant head coach before being moved up to the head role: He's done pretty well there without head coaching or coordinator experience. It can be done. Fair point foulpole. They definitely caught lightning in a bottle with that one but that was the rare exception not the rule. The college football graveyard is littered with position coaches failing miserably when being moved up to the coordinator position much less the rare times to head coach. It’s just not the time for Troy to take a 100 to 1 shot when we have so many other proven commodities available to us. But how else can you move up without taking that initial step?? You can't have head coach experience until someone makes you head coach. Just like you can't be a good coordinator until someone gives you that opportunity to sink or swim.
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Post by Troystet on Jan 12, 2018 15:26:16 GMT -6
Fair point foulpole. They definitely caught lightning in a bottle with that one but that was the rare exception not the rule. The college football graveyard is littered with position coaches failing miserably when being moved up to the coordinator position much less the rare times to head coach. It’s just not the time for Troy to take a 100 to 1 shot when we have so many other proven commodities available to us. But how else can you move up without taking that initial step?? You can't have head coach experience until someone makes you head coach. Just like you can't be a good coordinator until someone gives you that opportunity to sink or swim. All a gamble. Some assistants make great HC's and some don't. I personally would like to see us go with a proven FCS coach when the time comes (South took the one I wanted but IMO the James Madison coach is the next big success. He took Lenoir Rhyne to the D2 Nat Championship game, Won the Southern Conference at the Citadel in 2015 (first time since 1992) and took James Madison to the FCS Championship game in 2016 and 2017 beating The Goliath NDSU in 2016. No guarantee of success but a Leopard generally doesn't change his spots. And as far as people saying a FCS coach can't coach FBS, that was in fact the route we went when we moved to FBS
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