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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Jan 2, 2018 17:48:47 GMT -6
Not liking what I see at: Link That's not even a poll, it's an analytical tool used to predict performance....it essentially determines a point spread. If its data is accurate, it would be a useful tool during the season for one who wishes to wager on games but it is otherwise a collection of useless data points. It won't determine where we are ranked when the dust settles.
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Post by troyjan95 on Jan 3, 2018 10:41:41 GMT -6
joke of an analytical tool
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Post by troyjan95 on Jan 3, 2018 10:41:53 GMT -6
;-)
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Post by jonesoxygen on Jan 3, 2018 13:05:38 GMT -6
The work Kiffin has done with Twitter, TV, running up the score, etc. is genius from a marketing perspective. Right or wrong, FAU will be ranked ahead of us, no doubt.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jan 3, 2018 16:09:03 GMT -6
The work Kiffin has done with Twitter, TV, running up the score, etc. is genius from a marketing perspective. Right or wrong, FAU will be ranked ahead of us, no doubt. He was on TV on one of the feature ESPN programs giving his insight. You are correct and like our president he gets attention...However can not stand Kiffin and stated that before....Rich Rod is gone in Arizona so a few butts have fallen this year.....and when Kiffin goes from FAU (and yes it was genius to have that stupid 10 year deal signed to get his name still in pic) He will screw up.....recruiting problems with coeds while at Tennessee and at USC and just a humongous dirt bag
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Jan 4, 2018 10:19:35 GMT -6
I don't think there is much of a chance of getting ranked in the AP Poll. I think Troy's best hope is the Coaches' Poll.
The potential issue is... Three Sun Belt coaches that had us in their Top 25 on their previous ballot have been fired since the last Coaches' Poll came out. Those coaches were Tyson Summers, Mark Hudspeth, and Joey Jones. So the question is, do they still get to vote in the poll? If not, then you may as well count Troy as screwed.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jan 4, 2018 12:01:39 GMT -6
I don't think there is much of a chance of getting ranked in the AP Poll. I think Troy's best hope is the Coaches' Poll. The potential issue is... Three Sun Belt coaches that had us in their Top 25 on their previous ballot have been fired since the last Coaches' Poll came out. Those coaches were Tyson Summers, Mark Hudspeth, and Joey Jones. So the question is, do they still get to vote in the poll? If not, then you may as well count Troy as screwed. The AP poll is just a popularity contest...The Coaches' Poll speaks volumes about what other coaches feel about their peers' teams. Coaches' poll has more meaning.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jan 4, 2018 13:04:17 GMT -6
I don't think there is much of a chance of getting ranked in the AP Poll. I think Troy's best hope is the Coaches' Poll. The potential issue is... Three Sun Belt coaches that had us in their Top 25 on their previous ballot have been fired since the last Coaches' Poll came out. Those coaches were Tyson Summers, Mark Hudspeth, and Joey Jones. So the question is, do they still get to vote in the poll? If not, then you may as well count Troy as screwed. The AP poll is just a popularity contest...The Coaches' Poll speaks volumes about what other coaches feel about their peers' teams. Coaches' poll has more meaning. The AP and not all of them are swayed by "story" or social media perception along with some football facts. "Oh FAU had a good year and only lost 3 games and kissin is just fascinating" "I am going to rank them number 23". The AP has a great deal more than that and JUST now coaches are going to look at things with a little more thought than during the season and having to have their vote cast in a certain amount of time. Yes! The coaches poll will really give a FOOTBALL perspective instead of a STORY perspective.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jan 4, 2018 13:10:11 GMT -6
Oh and by the way over on CSnnbs boards the argument for FAU is that 2!!!!!!! Losses to numbers 55 and 87 is so much better than a loss to number 116. (If the numbers correct) however the key then is they compare their loss to Wisconsin as better than our Boise loss....I think losing 2 times to lesser teams trumps a flop to a poor team and did I mention: Where is their big victory for the year?
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jan 4, 2018 16:05:45 GMT -6
That dweeb Kiffin has a story (comes up on yahoo) why Alabama wanted Georgia. What the crap! Yes he coached with Satan and could not get along....blew it at Tennessee and USC and keeps getting jobs.....only so far a hot looking wife will take you!!! But why would they care what he has to say about Alabama and Georgia.
Yes I dislike him.....look at one of the threads about least favorite coaches.....by the Rich Rod was on my list prior to stories breaking.....some guys are just selfless promoters of garbage and Kiffin is one of the worst.....HOWEVER, when big program comes and he blows it....you heard it hear first or for the 500th time....He will fail and mean while FAU ahead of us ....I don't think so!!
And for you that were confused....HE is one of my least favorite coaches...I know by my posts some may be confused....
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Post by California Trojan on Jan 9, 2018 10:21:49 GMT -6
No ranking and only 14 points....behind FAU, wow, total disrespect. link
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Post by troytrojanman on Jan 9, 2018 10:40:04 GMT -6
The following shows just how stupid these AP voters really are. These are just a few. Gary Horowitz #21 FAU, #25 Army. Keith Sargeant #21 FAU, #25 Army. Kirk Bohls #24 FAU, #25 Army. Robert Gagliardi #24 Army, #25 Fresno State. I've saved the best for last. Matt Charboneau #20 Army, #21 FAU, #23 Fresno State.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jan 9, 2018 11:50:30 GMT -6
No ranking and only 14 points....behind FAU, wow, total disrespect. linkI actually admire Army this year as a team but they with no passing at all could not defeat many teams with good run defenses (for example Troy) they should not have more votes than us and YOU know how I feel about FAUK and Kiffin.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jan 9, 2018 12:30:55 GMT -6
If we can beat Boise and Nebraska next season and we are not ranked, then we should just pull a UCF and make our own rankings and championship.
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Post by troy79 on Jan 9, 2018 12:36:52 GMT -6
The AP has us at #31 (following the National Championship game last night). The Coaches Poll is frozen from the pre-bowl season so the last ranking we had was #30. Guys, this is awesome to think we are on the brink of cracking the top 25. Exciting times for TROY!
Go TROY!
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Jan 9, 2018 13:32:39 GMT -6
The following shows just how stupid these AP voters really are. These are just a few. Gary Horowitz #21 FAU, #25 Army. Keith Sargeant #21 FAU, #25 Army. Kirk Bohls #24 FAU, #25 Army. Robert Gagliardi #24 Army, #25 Fresno State. I've saved the best for last. Matt Charboneau #20 Army, #21 FAU, #23 Fresno State. Stupid by what measure? FAU and Fresno are better teams. I can get making an argument that they aren't, but stupid? Naw man. I don't know anything about Army except that they play a non traditional offense, so I can't speak on them.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Jan 9, 2018 14:07:15 GMT -6
The following shows just how stupid these AP voters really are. These are just a few. Gary Horowitz #21 FAU, #25 Army. Keith Sargeant #21 FAU, #25 Army. Kirk Bohls #24 FAU, #25 Army. Robert Gagliardi #24 Army, #25 Fresno State. I've saved the best for last. Matt Charboneau #20 Army, #21 FAU, #23 Fresno State. Stupid by what measure? FAU and Fresno are better teams. I can get making an argument that they aren't, but stupid? Naw man. I don't know anything about Army except that they play a non traditional offense, so I can't speak on them. Why do you say FAU is better?
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Post by atlantatrojan on Jan 9, 2018 14:21:29 GMT -6
I don’t think FAU was better. We would have had a good game with them possibly going either way.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jan 9, 2018 14:26:03 GMT -6
This season at 11-2 was one of our all time greats. What stings just a little, is we had the potential to be where UCF is right now. Granted, we could have been worse than 11-2. Ranking would be great, but nobody in the AP can take away our 11-2 season. And for sure they can't take away.. "We just beat LSU!"
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Post by srbtrojan on Jan 9, 2018 14:33:16 GMT -6
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jan 9, 2018 14:37:55 GMT -6
ESPN coaches poll doesn't list us at 18? Help me out before I go bragging.... which poll is this?
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Post by srbtrojan on Jan 9, 2018 14:39:13 GMT -6
ESPN coaches poll doesn't list us at 18? Help me out before I go bragging.... which poll is this? USA Today 1-130 re-rank
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Post by troytrojanman on Jan 9, 2018 14:44:22 GMT -6
The following shows just how stupid these AP voters really are. These are just a few. Gary Horowitz #21 FAU, #25 Army. Keith Sargeant #21 FAU, #25 Army. Kirk Bohls #24 FAU, #25 Army. Robert Gagliardi #24 Army, #25 Fresno State. I've saved the best for last. Matt Charboneau #20 Army, #21 FAU, #23 Fresno State. Stupid by what measure? FAU and Fresno are better teams. I can get making an argument that they aren't, but stupid? Naw man. I don't know anything about Army except that they play a non traditional offense, so I can't speak on them. Putting 3 teams like that ahead of us is pretty stupid in my opinion. Even more so putting Army at #20. A handful of voters knew what they were talking about. I don’t think FAU and Fresno are better teams. Maybe that’s just me.
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Post by Troystet on Jan 9, 2018 15:46:50 GMT -6
The Big Fat Brown Turd game after LSU killed us. 8 Points and a loss against a bad USA team and as far as FAU I guess they looked at our common Opponent UNT, we scored 50 they scored 67. Still proud of our season and breaking the top 25 in at least one poll.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jan 9, 2018 17:11:13 GMT -6
Coaches at number 27 not bad.
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