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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 3, 2017 7:42:39 GMT -6
This thread should have a weekly spot on Comedy Central. I don’t know if it’s cluelessness or ignorance but it’s contagious in this thread. For you Silvers haters watch the highlights at 2:00 minutes. That’s a NFL level pass completion placed in the perfect spot. Guess what even Tom Brady makes mistakes, misses reads, throws interceptions, and fumbles. As for you keyboard play callers, well nothing has changed there. If it were up to you, we would still have Blakeney at HC and Rowell coaching D. We would lose by 70 every week but you would be happy.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 3, 2017 7:45:34 GMT -6
I'm about to say something that is going to pi$$ a bunch of you off. Here goes... This is an offense built by Larry Blakeney and Brown is running it wrong. Or not running it if you will. Dude... this isn't a "Larry Blakeney" offense, or a "Mark Fleetwood" offense like another poster said. The playcalling really isn't bad by Coach Brown. It seems like it's bad because we have some players that aren't doing what they should be doing. We've got some WR's that aren't making catches that they should make, and they're also not blocking properly on the perimeter. So of course, when we run a screen play for only 1 or 2 yards, it's going to look like a bad play call when it's actually some guys not doing their job that's causing the issues. Last season, those same plays were going for 8 to 10 yards each time. We've got a QB that isn't playing consistent like he was last season also. If we try a deep pass that get's overthrown, it's going to seem like a bad play. Did some of you not see the fake screen pass for a TD last night that got us up 17-7? That was a GREAT play call. Or the decision to go for it on 4th & 1 so we could have a 10 point lead on Idaho? If Brown wouldn't have done that, we would've lost the game most likely. I feel like some of you really don't remember just how bad and predictable the offense used to be compared to now. Either that or you're just being really dramatic about this whole thing. Yes it is... the majority of Offensive starters are Blakeney recruits. One thing Blakeney did really well was recruit running backs. Without Blakeney, we would have no Chunn and we would not be 7-2 and we certainly would not have beaten LSU.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 3, 2017 7:48:49 GMT -6
You people kill me. If someone gave you $1,000,000. I believe you would complain if the bills weren’t turned the right direction. This program was in the crapper, 6-6 was our best record for 4 seasons, fans had bailed out (some of you) and there was little interest in this program. In comes CNB and his staff, 4-8 the first year with noticeable improvement, 10-3 last season and people are talking about Troy nationwide. Now here we are at 7-2, looking at the schedule (before the season started) you’re lying if you say we would be better than 8-1, 7-2 at this point. Was last night ugly, yes. Do we need to win with “style points” if we want national recognition, yes. Good gosh people, enjoy the moment. Again, 7-2, guaranteed post season play, regardless of the location or opponent. These are all great things. Save some of your anger for basketball. You all know you’ll need it. I'm not lying, I called and undefeated season and we should be but we REFUSE to run the ball like we should. Do you think you’re more qualified to call plays than Neal Brown? I’m pretty sure that clears up what category you fall under.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 3, 2017 7:54:04 GMT -6
This thread should have a weekly spot on Comedy Central. I don’t know if it’s cluelessness or ignorance but it’s contagious in this thread. For you Silvers haters watch the highlights at 2:00 minutes. That’s a NFL level pass completion placed in the perfect spot. Guess what even Tom Brady makes mistakes, misses reads, throws interceptions, and fumbles. As for you keyboard play callers, well nothing has changed there. If it were up to you, we would still have Blakeney at HC and Rowell coaching D. We would lose by 70 every week but you would be happy. Still upset about not getting their autographs?
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 3, 2017 7:59:06 GMT -6
If it were up to you, we would still have Blakeney at HC and Rowell coaching D. We would lose by 70 every week but you would be happy. Still upset about not getting their autographs? Not sure about anyone else but my kids have Larry’s autograph because he is a Legend. But why would anyone have/want Rowell’s autograph?
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Nov 3, 2017 8:01:07 GMT -6
Last I checked, we won the game.
Who cares how many go routes, bubble screens, read options or dives we ran.
In the end, troy made the plays to win the game. During the game, the offense executed vital plays through the air and on the ground.
If the end result is the same, what does it matter the route you take?
Some folks on this board just can't stand Troy being successful. I think it literally causes them pain.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 3, 2017 8:04:28 GMT -6
I'm not lying, I called and undefeated season and we should be but we REFUSE to run the ball like we should. Do you think you’re more qualified to call plays than Neal Brown? I’m pretty sure that clears up what category you fall under. I'm not more qualified to call plays than Neal Brown, but that doesn't mean that he is some super genius and the only one that can call plays at Troy. The honeymoon is over for him. From my "keyboard coach" perspective, he escapes defeat by the grace of our defense. We should be winning big and we aren't.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Nov 3, 2017 8:10:41 GMT -6
Dude... this isn't a "Larry Blakeney" offense, or a "Mark Fleetwood" offense like another poster said. The playcalling really isn't bad by Coach Brown. It seems like it's bad because we have some players that aren't doing what they should be doing. We've got some WR's that aren't making catches that they should make, and they're also not blocking properly on the perimeter. So of course, when we run a screen play for only 1 or 2 yards, it's going to look like a bad play call when it's actually some guys not doing their job that's causing the issues. Last season, those same plays were going for 8 to 10 yards each time. We've got a QB that isn't playing consistent like he was last season also. If we try a deep pass that get's overthrown, it's going to seem like a bad play. Did some of you not see the fake screen pass for a TD last night that got us up 17-7? That was a GREAT play call. Or the decision to go for it on 4th & 1 so we could have a 10 point lead on Idaho? If Brown wouldn't have done that, we would've lost the game most likely. I feel like some of you really don't remember just how bad and predictable the offense used to be compared to now. Either that or you're just being really dramatic about this whole thing. Yes it is... the majority of Offensive starters are Blakeney recruits. One thing Blakeney did really well was recruit running backs. Without Blakeney, we would have no Chunn and we would not be 7-2 and we certainly would not have beaten LSU. You just contradicted yourself about Troy running a "Larry Blakeney" offense, but you seem to like the guys he recruited for that offense.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Nov 3, 2017 8:12:40 GMT -6
Larry Blakeney offense?
You mean the guy who was head coach when we were lighting up scoreboard with Omar, Levi and C-Rob?
Nice try, trolls.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 3, 2017 8:16:45 GMT -6
Yes it is... the majority of Offensive starters are Blakeney recruits. One thing Blakeney did really well was recruit running backs. Without Blakeney, we would have no Chunn and we would not be 7-2 and we certainly would not have beaten LSU. You just contradicted yourself about Troy running a "Larry Blakeney" offense, but you seem to like the guys he recruited for that offense. It's Blakeney personnel to be clear. It's a Brown whirly bird offense. Run Chunn, Anderson, and Henderson over and over and we will score touchdowns. We should have had 500 yards of offense on the ground.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 3, 2017 8:23:57 GMT -6
Do you think you’re more qualified to call plays than Neal Brown? I’m pretty sure that clears up what category you fall under. I'm not more qualified to call plays than Neal Brown, but that doesn't mean that he is some super genius and the only one that can call plays at Troy. The honeymoon is over for him. From my "keyboard coach" perspective, he escapes defeat by the grace of our defense. We should be winning big and we aren't. Neal Brown is 17-5 in his last 22 games. I can live with that. The honeymoon is over? You’re lost. Go bash Gus awhile.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 3, 2017 8:31:15 GMT -6
I'm not more qualified to call plays than Neal Brown, but that doesn't mean that he is some super genius and the only one that can call plays at Troy. The honeymoon is over for him. From my "keyboard coach" perspective, he escapes defeat by the grace of our defense. We should be winning big and we aren't. Neal Brown is 17-5 in his last 22 games. I can live with that. The honeymoon is over? You’re lost. Go bash Gus awhile. What is his record against teams with winning records?
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Post by labull05 on Nov 3, 2017 8:32:14 GMT -6
So, if you were the coach, had an air-raid offense, but you had Chunn ( 2nd all-time behind Dewitt ) & Anderson, you wouldn't run the ball? I'm the first to complain about not airing the ball out,but I, at least, understand the why... I agree these are Larry Blakely recruits for his offense at the time, these two running back's are powerful running back's and talent needs to be used for both of them there is not one defense out there cannot stop these two guys then you mix in Henderson and run pass plays off of the foundation of the running back's. There are plenty of offense of coordinators who would Love to have the talent we have in the backfield and would be so creative using it instead we call the same boring plays and struggle. Play calling needs an upgrade maybe Vic can call them he's bailed nb out plenty of times all year and knows how to make in game adjustments
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Post by cornhole on Nov 3, 2017 8:37:27 GMT -6
I'm about to say something that is going to pi$$ a bunch of you off. Here goes... This is an offense built by Larry Blakeney and Brown is running it wrong. Or not running it if you will. CNB is making the best of what he was was left. Next year, he owns the O. 4 years ago we'd a been ecstatic about 7-2 and bowling two years in a row!!
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 3, 2017 8:37:48 GMT -6
Neal Brown is 17-5 in his last 22 games. I can live with that. The honeymoon is over? You’re lost. Go bash Gus awhile. What is his record against teams with winning records? 7-3 during those 22 games. Losses to Ark St, Boise St, and Clemson. Feel stupid yet?
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Post by cornhole on Nov 3, 2017 8:56:42 GMT -6
Agree, its been like Mark Fleetwood was back almost all season. We have continued to look unprepared with the worst play calling all season. For all of the talent on this offense it is agonizing to watch us struggle to move the ball down the field and score. Without VK we are 1-8. Our offense is a joke and we are in serious trouble next season. I have never been a fan of Silvers because I just don't think he's a passer. We run the ball very effectively but we are losing both Chun and Anderson next year and Henderson by all accounts has head problems. We have not been the same offensive team since mid season last year. We have serious trouble throwing the ball down field. We are an air raid offense that's barely throwing for 200 yards a game and we're averaging 6 yards a completion Last time I checked CNB hired Vic. Good call, Coach. Our offense is inconsistent. Players not making assignments, not executing well, dropped passes. Receivers not able to get separation on routes. Our opponents know our schemes and have prepared well. We have a target on our backs now. But we find a way to win. We've come along way in three shorts years.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Nov 3, 2017 8:59:19 GMT -6
Larry Blakeney hired Mark Fleetwood to run the offense. That failed miserably. Just prior to that failed experiment Vic was bailing out the offense on LB's team. In came Tony Franklin to implement the Air Raid and he brought a bright super intelligent young coach (Neal Brown) to help install what has become a staple of TROY offensive football. Larry didn't install it. Tony Franklin did. These players are by way of deduction really truly TF's and his first staff that included NB because without them the offense we've enjoyed and still enjoy is non-existent. The players came because the Air Raid was installed and the only thing LB did was hire the guy to install it.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 3, 2017 9:01:49 GMT -6
What is his record against teams with winning records? 7-3 during those 22 games. Losses to Ark St, Boise St, and Clemson. Feel stupid yet? It's 7-8 and you don't get to discount games.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 3, 2017 9:04:08 GMT -6
7-3 during those 22 games. Losses to Ark St, Boise St, and Clemson. Feel stupid yet? It's 7-8 and you don't get to discount games. Correct if you count the first season. Which in my original post was not mentioned because it was about the last 22 games. Good try though. No one takes your silliness seriously. That’s still better than your record.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 3, 2017 9:06:56 GMT -6
It's 7-8 and you don't get to discount games. Correct if you count the first season. Which in my original post was not mentioned because it was about the last 22 games. Good try though. No one takes your silliness seriously. That’s still better than your record. Just the facts. You can add conditions all you want.
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Post by cornhole on Nov 3, 2017 9:11:36 GMT -6
It's definitely empty. [Editing to say I just took this photo at 11 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.] Where is the famed widespread Troy area local support at? Shame the larger local community does not fully support the gift that is Troy University. Thanks to the small local group that does support. Thursday night. 8:15 start. Time clocks to punch at 7am next morning, trucks to be out for deliveries by 6am. Business appointments at 8am, kids to be dressed, fed and off to school early, on and on and on. I wonder how many OF US, stayed home, several hours away since we could watch in the comfort of our own home??? I did. TV and its effect on scheduling is a double-edged sword. How many more thousands of us faithful watched on TV?? I did.
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 3, 2017 9:31:50 GMT -6
Correct if you count the first season. Which in my original post was not mentioned because it was about the last 22 games. Good try though. No one takes your silliness seriously. That’s still better than your record. Just the facts. You can add conditions all you want. Good luck with stating the facts with this Hemiman person, remember he is the one that stated Rowell would make an excellent Head Coach at Troy.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 3, 2017 9:41:47 GMT -6
Just the facts. You can add conditions all you want. Good luck with stating the facts with this Hemiman person, remember he is the one that stated Rowell would make an excellent Head Coach at Troy. I like Jeremy. I don’t think I ever said that though. He chuckles when I tell him you guys can’t get him out of your heads.
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 3, 2017 9:44:52 GMT -6
So, if you were the coach, had an air-raid offense, but you had Chunn ( 2nd all-time behind Dewitt ) & Anderson, you wouldn't run the ball? I'm the first to complain about not airing the ball out,but I, at least, understand the why... I agree these are Larry Blakely recruits for his offense at the time, these two running back's are powerful running back's and talent needs to be used for both of them there is not one defense out there cannot stop these two guys then you mix in Henderson and run pass plays off of the foundation of the running back's. There are plenty of offense of coordinators who would Love to have the talent we have in the backfield and would be so creative using it instead we call the same boring plays and struggle. Play calling needs an upgrade maybe Vic can call them he's bailed nb out plenty of times all year and knows how to make in game adjustments Spot on brother ! Imagine if we had a creative OC instead of “bubble screen” Edenfield. It’s tired boring and unproductive. We need a new, creative, energetic OC instead of the 3A High School OC we have now. And the lack of adjustments on the offensive side is sad and puzzling.
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Post by cornhole on Nov 3, 2017 10:13:58 GMT -6
So, if you were the coach, had an air-raid offense, but you had Chunn ( 2nd all-time behind Dewitt ) & Anderson, you wouldn't run the ball? I'm the first to complain about not airing the ball out,but I, at least, understand the why... I agree these are Larry Blakely recruits for his offense at the time, these two running back's are powerful running back's and talent needs to be used for both of them there is not one defense out there cannot stop these two guys then you mix in Henderson and run pass plays off of the foundation of the running back's. There are plenty of offense of coordinators who would Love to have the talent we have in the backfield and would be so creative using it instead we call the same boring plays and struggle. Play calling needs an upgrade maybe Vic can call them he's bailed nb out plenty of times all year and knows how to make in game adjustmentsI am amazed, and pleased at how Vic and his crew quickly assess what's thrown at them and make appropriate adjustments. On the O, I fault the on field execution of plays rather than the play call itself. Henderson is talented, but like a friend said, he's always just a breath away from a 15-yard flag or an ejection. Kid needs to grow up.
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