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Post by sballalumni2 on Apr 3, 2017 17:24:44 GMT -6
Will we win a series in the conference? I can't remember a team being this bad. Our new RPI is 115; we are near the bottom of the standings. What has happened to our softball program? I feel sorry for Hartley. She is having a great year at the plate. There were players in the lineup on Sunday batting .000 and .187. I am guessing we have some injuries? Is there any parents that read this site that care to share their feelings? I saw Corbett play some last year in JUCO and she got on base almost every time, yet she doesn't get to play. She is a slapper and from watching the games online, I don't think we have any everyday starters that are slappers. I thought the coaching staffing was going to bring in the mentality of "fast and high paced" play. Help.
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Post by pctrojan16 on Apr 3, 2017 19:22:41 GMT -6
Honestly I have no idea. We have zero pitching help. I can't help but feel the reason we are playing bad is the girls don't wanna play for Mullins
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Post by pctrojan16 on Apr 9, 2017 18:05:32 GMT -6
Guess everyone is going to ignore Tha dumpster fire called our softball team...
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Post by pkf4troy on Apr 9, 2017 21:42:04 GMT -6
The writing was on the wall when tryouts were opened to the student body.
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Post by sballalumni2 on Apr 11, 2017 13:24:56 GMT -6
We barely scored and were run ruled twice by ULL. It is embarrassing. Everything went down hill so fast - Davis's last recruits carried us the last few years. Hartley was her recruit, but after this year unless we bring in some stellar freshmen it is only going to get worse. Troystet - I want the inside scoop! Softball threads are a lot nicer than the football threads. We are just happy someone is chiming in. Feel free to share.
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Post by saintflorian on Apr 11, 2017 16:56:58 GMT -6
The writing was on the wall when tryouts were opened to the student body. There are several quotes from Deadpool that fit if this is true. No way this actually happened ?
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Post by chasin170 on Apr 12, 2017 12:14:24 GMT -6
Are you seriously doing this again? Go get checked out.........that is all.
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Post by saintflorian on Apr 12, 2017 12:58:03 GMT -6
We barely scored and were run ruled twice by ULL. It is embarrassing. Everything went down hill so fast - Davis's last recruits carried us the last few years. Hartley was her recruit, but after this year unless we bring in some stellar freshmen it is only going to get worse. Troystet - I want the inside scoop! Softball threads are a lot nicer than the football threads. We are just happy someone is chiming in. Feel free to share. She can't recruit from what I've heard. I believe Ray Charles can see that, especially if we are holding student body tryouts.
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Post by sballalumni2 on Apr 14, 2017 6:32:40 GMT -6
Do you think she is having trouble identifying talent or trouble actually convincing them to come to Troy?
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Apr 14, 2017 14:37:50 GMT -6
I don't think she's a very good softball head coach. Maybe a good assistant coach like she was everywhere else.
She's clearly not recruiting as well as Melanie Davis did.
I feel like Mullins has been just another Ole Miss/Mississippi State connection that Hartwell brought in. Troy has been Mississippi State 2.0 since Hartwell was here.
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Post by cornhole on Apr 14, 2017 19:56:44 GMT -6
Mississippi sources have seemed to work out ok overall. Change was needed and Hartwell's directive was to get Troy Athletics out of the dumpster fire that we were in. Perhaps all of John's selections weren't perfect, but i'm certain that you and the other keyboard AD's and second-guessers could have done better.
Please apply for the job.
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Post by pctrojan16 on Apr 14, 2017 20:01:27 GMT -6
She needs to go. Need a clean start
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Post by cornhole on Apr 14, 2017 20:04:38 GMT -6
She needs to go. Need a clean start You may be right. I certainly don't have all the insider facts like others seem to.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Apr 14, 2017 20:17:27 GMT -6
Mississippi sources have seemed to work out ok overall. Change was needed and Hartwell's directive was to get Troy Athletics out of the dumpster fire that we were in. Perhaps all of John's selections weren't perfect, but i'm certain that you and the other keyboard AD's and second-guessers could have done better. Please apply for the job. I never said the Mississippi hires didn't work out. I just pointed out he seemed to really like taking that route when hiring. As for applying for the job, I do have a degree in Sports Management, so I might need to apply.
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Post by cornhole on Apr 14, 2017 21:52:52 GMT -6
Mississippi sources have seemed to work out ok overall. Change was needed and Hartwell's directive was to get Troy Athletics out of the dumpster fire that we were in. Perhaps all of John's selections weren't perfect, but i'm certain that you and the other keyboard AD's and second-guessers could have done better. Please apply for the job. I never said the Mississippi hires didn't work out. I just pointed out he seemed to really like taking that route when hiring. As for applying for the job, I do have a degree in Sports Management, so I might need to apply. Well, I AM biased... Hartwell was brought in as a catalyst for change. In his short 2.5 years here he expunged entrenched, downtrend Head coaches in no less than 7 or 8 sports programs here. His changes actually turned around 4-5 of those programs. His predecessor made NO changes, status quo, let's not rock the boat and our programs spiraled to the bottom of the tank. If it were baseball, and we were hitters, .400 would most likely win a batting title (that's only 4 out of 10 sir). A 10-3 W/L football record would have been unheard of in Troy History. Men's /Women's simultaneous trips to the Big Dance, you'd a been laughed at. So, we're down in a couple sports... softball just continues the slump that John inherited. So, let's say the Hartwell era turned around 60% of the programs here, a .600 batting average, not bad in comparison. I DO believe the current AD and his staff are paying attention. If not, the job will certainly be open for applications.
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Post by Troystet on Apr 15, 2017 6:35:53 GMT -6
Without sounding sexiest I can tell you one undeniable fact. The vast majority of successful softball programs from HS, to ASA Gold travel ball, to JUCO to the top college programs all have male head coaches. There are successful female coaches but far, far less than male coaches. Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Arizona, Tennessee, ULL, Arizona St. And on have male head coaches. We have tried the female route twice, time for a male coach with a baseball background like the top programs have. Even Valdosta St a D2 power has a male HC from the baseball ranks. It can't hurt to try, status quoa isn't working jmo. I was around high level travel ball for six years and never seen a top program that wasn't coached by a man. There are good female coaches but the odds of finding one are not as good. Facts don't lie.
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Post by pctrojan16 on Apr 15, 2017 9:09:22 GMT -6
Not sexist if facts support the idea
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Post by doug4troy on Apr 15, 2017 19:44:06 GMT -6
Without sounding sexiest I can tell you one undeniable fact. The vast majority of successful softball programs from HS, to ASA Gold travel ball, to JUCO to the top college programs all have male head coaches. There are successful female coaches but far, far less than male coaches. Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Arizona, Tennessee, ULL, Arizona St. And on have male head coaches. We have tried the female route twice, time for a male coach with a baseball background like the top programs have. Even Valdosta St a D2 power has a male HC from the baseball ranks. It can't hurt to try, status quoa isn't working jmo. I was around high level travel ball for six years and never seen a top program that wasn't coached by a man. There are good female coaches but the odds of finding one are not as good. Facts don't lie. We get it: male, from Florida, over 50, and one of your friends.
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Post by Troystet on Apr 15, 2017 21:41:15 GMT -6
Without sounding sexiest I can tell you one undeniable fact. The vast majority of successful softball programs from HS, to ASA Gold travel ball, to JUCO to the top college programs all have male head coaches. There are successful female coaches but far, far less than male coaches. Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Arizona, Tennessee, ULL, Arizona St. And on have male head coaches. We have tried the female route twice, time for a male coach with a baseball background like the top programs have. Even Valdosta St a D2 power has a male HC from the baseball ranks. It can't hurt to try, status quoa isn't working jmo. I was around high level travel ball for six years and never seen a top program that wasn't coached by a man. There are good female coaches but the odds of finding one are not as good. Facts don't lie. We get it: male, from Florida, over 50, and one of your friends. Did I state that anywhere? No Did I mention a name? No Did I mention hire anyone from FL? No As usual the do one of the locals have to have a smart $&$ comment? Yes
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Post by doug4troy on Apr 15, 2017 21:43:14 GMT -6
We get it: male, from Florida, over 50, and one of your friends. Did I state that anywhere? No Did I mention a name? No Did I mention hire anyone from FL? No As usual the do one of the locals have to have a smart $&$ comment? Yes Calm down. That's a summary of all your posts, and it's accurate.
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Post by cornhole on Apr 15, 2017 21:53:54 GMT -6
I do not consider doug4troy one of the locals. Quite contrare sir.
smart $&$? doug? gay-laugh
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Post by doug4troy on Apr 15, 2017 21:58:07 GMT -6
I do not consider doug4troy one of the locals. Quite contrare sir. smart $&$? doug? gay-laugh Local? I thought he called me "loco." Which is accurate. Haha
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Post by cornhole on Apr 15, 2017 22:00:58 GMT -6
I do not consider doug4troy one of the locals. Quite contrare sir. smart $&$? doug? gay-laugh Local? I thought he called me "loco." Which is accurate. Haha Yeah, probably drink to that more than being a local! yuk, yuk,. cheers Bro!
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Apr 16, 2017 8:43:28 GMT -6
Without sounding sexiest I can tell you one undeniable fact. The vast majority of successful softball programs from HS, to ASA Gold travel ball, to JUCO to the top college programs all have male head coaches. There are successful female coaches but far, far less than male coaches. Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Arizona, Tennessee, ULL, Arizona St. And on have male head coaches. We have tried the female route twice, time for a male coach with a baseball background like the top programs have. Even Valdosta St a D2 power has a male HC from the baseball ranks. It can't hurt to try, status quoa isn't working jmo. I was around high level travel ball for six years and never seen a top program that wasn't coached by a man. There are good female coaches but the odds of finding one are not as good. Facts don't lie. Not going to argue any if these, it would be useless. I do have one question, "why in the WORLD would you bring in a baseball man? Why wouldn't you want a softball man (or woman)?
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Post by Troystet on Apr 16, 2017 9:42:50 GMT -6
Without sounding sexiest I can tell you one undeniable fact. The vast majority of successful softball programs from HS, to ASA Gold travel ball, to JUCO to the top college programs all have male head coaches. There are successful female coaches but far, far less than male coaches. Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Arizona, Tennessee, ULL, Arizona St. And on have male head coaches. We have tried the female route twice, time for a male coach with a baseball background like the top programs have. Even Valdosta St a D2 power has a male HC from the baseball ranks. It can't hurt to try, status quoa isn't working jmo. I was around high level travel ball for six years and never seen a top program that wasn't coached by a man. There are good female coaches but the odds of finding one are not as good. Facts don't lie. Not going to argue any if these, it would be useless. I do have one question, "why in the WORLD would you bring in a baseball man? Why wouldn't you want a softball man (or woman)? Was referring to a baseball background. The UF coach, TN coach, Alabama coach, Auburn coach and Arizona coach all had baseball backgrounds either as a player or coach. Fundementals are the same. You can easily transfer from baseball to softball coaching but it would be much harder to go from softball to baseball. All I stated were facts about some of the top programs, nothing more, nothing less.
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