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Post by Trojan Warrior on Jul 26, 2016 5:14:31 GMT -6
As the conference moves toward a title game, set to begin in 2018, Commissioner Karl Benson expects to simultaneously transition to a divisional construct. “Without finalizing it, it appears that we will be heading towards two divisions just because we have so many game contracts that go beyond 2018 that call for the fourth non-conference game,” Benson said at Sun Belt Media Day at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome. “If we made the decision to eventually go to a single division and play nine conference games, it would take several years to phase that in.” This seems like a step forward for the Sun Belt, as well as a way to help foster rivalries in a fast-changing landscape. Louisiana-Lafayette, Louisiana-Monroe, Arkansas State and Texas State seem set up for a western division with Appalachian State, Coastal Carolina, Georgia State and Georgia Southern composing an eastern division. Troy and South Alabama could go either way, hopefully with a protected cross-divisional matchup. Full article here: www.southernpigskin.com/sun-belt/media-day-takeaways/
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Post by doc71 on Jul 26, 2016 8:12:35 GMT -6
Hope we go east. And yes...we need to keep USA as permenent opponent.
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Post by troy79 on Jul 26, 2016 11:37:26 GMT -6
Hope we go east. And yes...we need to keep USA as permenent opponent. Agree Doc, and if they actually go by geography, then we will wind up in the Eastern Division and USA will fall in the Western Division. However, if the Big 12 does add teams, then the fallout in the Belt could change things and there may be no need for two divisions.
Go TROY!
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Post by Troystet on Jul 26, 2016 12:24:10 GMT -6
West would be the weaker division by far. East will have Troy, Georgia Southern, App St, Georgia State, Coastal Carolina.
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Post by troypop on Jul 26, 2016 23:00:24 GMT -6
With the Big 12 contemplating adding teams, the probability of a fallout is most certain. However, in my opinion, if the Sunbelt will go ahead and finalize its future as a divisional conference I feel the fallout may be lessened. Whose's to say that the Sunbelt is not more appealing at that point, in which teams from the AAC may be enticed to join up in a divisional conference and our Sunbelt teams (potential fallout teams) elect to stay and see how they fair for a few years. Just my .02!
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Post by chasin170 on Jul 27, 2016 6:38:38 GMT -6
Not sure the exit/entrance fees justify a Belt to CUSA move.If you remove two top two teams in CUSA it's a WEAKER football conference.Why pay to join a weaker league with a shotty TV deal??I think the numbers will say stay in a tighter geo conference with higher payout
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Post by Troystet on Jul 27, 2016 7:10:43 GMT -6
Not sure the exit/entrance fees justify a Belt to CUSA move.If you remove two top two teams in CUSA it's a WEAKER football conference.Why pay to join a weaker league with a shotty TV deal??I think the numbers will say stay in a tighter geo conference with higher payout I think they also look at basketball also and C-USA does have the advantage there. I think C-USA wants this look of bigger markets over quality IMO. They got Miami-Dade, Charlotte, Nashville, Birmingham, Northern VA, San Antonio, New Orleans, Houston, and with Marshall and WKU they feel they reach into the OH/PA/IN corridor. Not sure where USM fits in that as I feel they are a better fit for the Sun Belt. No question that top to bottom the Belt looks stronger in football.
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Post by chasin170 on Jul 27, 2016 15:04:25 GMT -6
Not sure the exit/entrance fees justify a Belt to CUSA move.If you remove two top two teams in CUSA it's a WEAKER football conference.Why pay to join a weaker league with a shotty TV deal??I think the numbers will say stay in a tighter geo conference with higher payout I think they also look at basketball also and C-USA does have the advantage there. I think C-USA wants this look of bigger markets over quality IMO. They got Miami-Dade, Charlotte, Nashville, Birmingham, Northern VA, San Antonio, New Orleans, Houston, and with Marshall and WKU they feel they reach into the OH/PA/IN corridor. Not sure where USM fits in that as I feel they are a better fit for the Sun Belt. No question that top to bottom the Belt looks stronger in football. CUSA doesn't have the advantage in basketball either in a post Memphis Era.Sun Belt was higher in RPI last year and should hold there own now that Memphis has left CUSA..... www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/rpi-rating-by-conf
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Post by Troystet on Jul 28, 2016 8:05:03 GMT -6
I think they also look at basketball also and C-USA does have the advantage there. I think C-USA wants this look of bigger markets over quality IMO. They got Miami-Dade, Charlotte, Nashville, Birmingham, Northern VA, San Antonio, New Orleans, Houston, and with Marshall and WKU they feel they reach into the OH/PA/IN corridor. Not sure where USM fits in that as I feel they are a better fit for the Sun Belt. No question that top to bottom the Belt looks stronger in football. CUSA doesn't have the advantage in basketball either in a post Memphis Era.Sun Belt was higher in RPI last year and should hold there own now that Memphis has left CUSA..... www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/rpi-rating-by-confIn name recognition and larger metro areas they do. You have a lot of basketball talent coming out of larger inner cities. I know in FL the vast majority of basketball talent is Mismi-Dade, I-4 corridor. They tend to want to play in a big city. C-USA still has WKU, UAB, Old Dominion and Charlotte which have more name regognition than any school in the Belt. Recruits may or may not even know about RPI but they know name recognition. Not to say you can't recruit inner cities for talent. You can always find a player or mom who wants out of the big city but as a general rule they want to play at the bigger schools. This was always a problem I heard in Troy recruiting basketball, whether that is true or not I don't know.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jul 28, 2016 8:30:02 GMT -6
One. Bid. League. It's a push.
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Post by Troystet on Jul 28, 2016 10:03:05 GMT -6
I am curious if C-USA comes after GA State, USA, or ULL? That would be the three logical ones. Money talks
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jul 28, 2016 10:15:48 GMT -6
I am curious if C-USA comes after GA State, USA, or ULL? That would be the three logical ones. Money talks What money? Exit fees + entrance fees!= sound financial decision...I take it you have not seen the new tv package for coosa.
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Post by troy79 on Jul 28, 2016 11:56:51 GMT -6
Guys, in the Bowling Green (KY) Daily Newspaper this week, the Commissioner of C-USA, Judy MacLeod, stated at their media days in Dallas that they are bracing for further realignment due to the Big 12 expansion discussion. She said several of the AAC schools are reported as serious candidates for the Big 12 and if that conference loses schools, she believes they will come after some C-USA institutions. News outlets have reported that Old Dominion and Marshall are being considered. She stated that if any current C-USA teams left, there are 'suitors from other leagues that want to join the conference'. MacLeod didn't name the those schools, but said she's "heard from some of them recently about their interest in C-USA".
In my opinion, the only possible schools that might have any interest would be UMASS and ARMY from the independent ranks, possibly a MAC school(s), and most likely school(s) from the Belt.
Go TROY!
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jul 28, 2016 12:51:14 GMT -6
Guys, in the Bowling Green (KY) Daily Newspaper this week, the Commissioner of C-USA, Judy MacLeod, stated at their media days in Dallas that they are bracing for further realignment due to the Big 12 expansion discussion. She said several of the AAC schools are reported as serious candidates for the Big 12 and if that conference loses schools, she believes they will come after some C-USA institutions. News outlets have reported that Old Dominion and Marshall are being considered. She stated that if any current C-USA teams left, there are 'suitors from other leagues that want to join the conference'. MacLeod didn't name the those schools, but said she's "heard from some of them recently about their interest in C-USA". In my opinion, the only possible schools that might have any interest would be UMASS and ARMY from the independent ranks, possibly a MAC school(s), and most likely school(s) from the Belt. Go TROY! We should also remember UAB football is coming back. Revenue sharing and a watered down coosa media package doesn't bear a league of more than 12 member institutions. I just don't see the SBC being affected, at this stage of the game.
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Post by Troystet on Jul 28, 2016 12:52:45 GMT -6
I am curious if C-USA comes after GA State, USA, or ULL? That would be the three logical ones. Money talks What money? Exit fees + entrance fees!= sound financial decision...I take it you have not seen the new tv package for coosa. Correct I haven't. I do know that $$$ was the reason WKU, MTSU, FAU and FIU jumped ship. How does their current TV deal compare to the Sun Belt. I know it seems most games are on ESPN3
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Post by Troystet on Jul 28, 2016 13:00:16 GMT -6
Guys, in the Bowling Green (KY) Daily Newspaper this week, the Commissioner of C-USA, Judy MacLeod, stated at their media days in Dallas that they are bracing for further realignment due to the Big 12 expansion discussion. She said several of the AAC schools are reported as serious candidates for the Big 12 and if that conference loses schools, she believes they will come after some C-USA institutions. News outlets have reported that Old Dominion and Marshall are being considered. She stated that if any current C-USA teams left, there are 'suitors from other leagues that want to join the conference'. MacLeod didn't name the those schools, but said she's "heard from some of them recently about their interest in C-USA". In my opinion, the only possible schools that might have any interest would be UMASS and ARMY from the independent ranks, possibly a MAC school(s), and most likely school(s) from the Belt. Go TROY! We should also remember UAB football is coming back. Revenue sharing and a watered down coosa media package doesn't bear a league of more than 12 member institutions. I just don't see the SBC being affected, at this stage of the game. Just depends I guess on what the schools are looking for. I can see GA St or USA going just to be in a conference with larger schools that more fit their area. Sun Belt in its current state is more smaller schools in smalle towns...Troy, App St, GA Southen, Coastal, ULM. Who knows with the way these schools jump conferences anymore
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jul 28, 2016 15:47:55 GMT -6
We should also remember UAB football is coming back. Revenue sharing and a watered down coosa media package doesn't bear a league of more than 12 member institutions. I just don't see the SBC being affected, at this stage of the game. Just depends I guess on what the schools are looking for. I can see GA St or USA going just to be in a conference with larger schools that more fit their area. Sun Belt in its current state is more smaller schools in smalle towns...Troy, App St, GA Southen, Coastal, ULM. Who knows with the way these schools jump conferences anymore Pay money to be with 'bigger' schools and get less money? Nah...doesn't make sense. As it stands, the SBC would be getting a larger share of the CFP money per team than CUSA. Exit and entry fees...it'd be a lateral move at best.
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Post by saintflorian on Jul 29, 2016 6:57:18 GMT -6
Guys, in the Bowling Green (KY) Daily Newspaper this week, the Commissioner of C-USA, Judy MacLeod, stated at their media days in Dallas that they are bracing for further realignment due to the Big 12 expansion discussion. She said several of the AAC schools are reported as serious candidates for the Big 12 and if that conference loses schools, she believes they will come after some C-USA institutions. News outlets have reported that Old Dominion and Marshall are being considered. She stated that if any current C-USA teams left, there are 'suitors from other leagues that want to join the conference'. MacLeod didn't name the those schools, but said she's "heard from some of them recently about their interest in C-USA". In my opinion, the only possible schools that might have any interest would be UMASS and ARMY from the independent ranks, possibly a MAC school(s), and most likely school(s) from the Belt. Go TROY! South Alabama is courting the CUSA hard. With So. Miss and UAB it makes sense. Also decent TV market. Also here UL is courting hard too. Sunbelt will be affected.
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Post by Hemi Man on Jul 29, 2016 7:23:13 GMT -6
Much of the sexiness of CUSA is gone.
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Post by tenaciousT on Jul 29, 2016 15:00:01 GMT -6
If i am not mistaken after CUSAs new tv deal they are only getting $100k more per team than SB teams, it might be even less than that. With the prior TV deal they were making 1mill+ per team, so yeah, couldnt blame them for leaving for the old deal.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jul 30, 2016 6:14:46 GMT -6
If i am not mistaken after CUSAs new tv deal they are only getting $100k more per team than SB teams, it might be even less than that. With the prior TV deal they were making 1mill+ per team, so yeah, couldnt blame them for leaving for the old deal. Agree 100%, but the old deal is the old deal. As you, myself, and others have mentioned, the new deal puts them at less tv money and a small cfp cut due to having 13, soon to be 14 football playing members. Anyone moving to cusa is losing financially...
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Post by Mr. Ho on Aug 2, 2016 17:48:19 GMT -6
Book it. AAC takes GaState. StunBelt invites Lamar to West and moves USA to East. CDOA continues to fade into obscurity and travel budget money pit. Mr. Ho always right so no argue. He also wonder at what point do Old South Missisisisissiipppi think Stunbelt better option. Seriously, Texas Western vs. Miami State and ODU versus anybody generates ZERO interest.
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Post by Troystet on Aug 3, 2016 8:40:30 GMT -6
Book it. AAC takes GaState. StunBelt invites Lamar to West and moves USA to East. CDOA continues to fade into obscurity and travel budget money pit. Mr. Ho always right so no argue. He also wonder at what point do Old South Missisisisissiipppi think Stunbelt better option. Seriously, Texas Western vs. Miami State and ODU versus anybody generates ZERO interest. East will be much tougher than West if that happens. West will have ULL, Ark St. ULM, Lamar, Tx State. East would have Troy, USA, Ga Southern, App St and Coastal Carolina
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Post by trojanbrutha on Aug 3, 2016 9:14:23 GMT -6
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Post by troyjan95 on Aug 6, 2016 7:49:26 GMT -6
Our conference as crazy as this may sound needs to strike a deal with a non cable service - like a netflix, yahoo tv, apple tv, etc. and have games streaming live - we will be left behind by cable networks due to market share - just a fact - however - Troy IMO has great coaches in the major sports now (including Phil Cunningham) and the others as well. I just don't see cable ever trying to invest in rural america when it comes to sports.
talking about East vs. West - ULL and Arky State in the West is pretty tough - both have shared or won the conference for the past ______________ years - seems like at least 5 to me Until the soon to be East Division wins or shares (GA. Southern did technically share year before last) , the East has to catch up
WHERE WILL THE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME BE PLAYED? Call me crazy - but I like Pensacola and play it a Blue Wahoo stadium in December or even Myrtle Beach (once Coastal has the new stadium) - beach destination But more realistically - I would like to see it travel friendly cities - Atlanta, New Orleans, Birmingham, Charlotte
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