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Post by Mr. Ho on Jan 7, 2016 19:39:08 GMT -6
TMTDM beating Jeremy Holloway 19-16...unfortunately other UAB-Atlanta player score additional 22 point. Also, Ho recognize that UAB-Atlanta still play in gym with high school scoreboard. Kind of look like Sartain - no wonder they win.
Also, TV announcer do everything but laugh at TMTDM. Have no idea what happen to this team. They might win 3 or 4 conference game and not make tournament or do every team get invite? It like this team not have pulse.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Jan 7, 2016 20:16:31 GMT -6
TMTDM beating Jeremy Holloway 19-16...unfortunately other UAB-Atlanta player score additional 22 point. Also, Ho recognize that UAB-Atlanta still play in gym with high school scoreboard. Kind of look like Sartain - no wonder they win. Also, TV announcer do everything but laugh at TMTDM. Have no idea what happen to this team. They might win 3 or 4 conference game and not make tournament or do every team get invite? It like this team not have pulse. I'm heading out to the shed for my torch and pitchfork inventory. Just making sure I know where everything is.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Jan 7, 2016 20:20:26 GMT -6
At this point I think maestri would be coaching better.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Jan 7, 2016 20:44:23 GMT -6
Yes you are all mini John Woodens. I just watched a Troy team play their butts off again and lose by 3 on the road to a team that won a few games in the big dance last year.
Im gonna guess most of you didn't buy tickets to watch the Globetrotters Tuesday night but you will complain that there is never anything to do in Troy.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Jan 7, 2016 20:47:23 GMT -6
They were not in the sweet 16. They made it to the final 32. By beating a Baylor team
Troy was down by more than 20 points at one point.
But we will see how it plays out.
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Post by Hemi Man on Jan 7, 2016 20:48:14 GMT -6
Yes you are all mini John Woodens. I just watched a Troy team play their butts off again and lose by 3 on the road to a team that was in the sweet 16 last year. Im gonna guess most of you didn't buy tickets to watch the Globetrotters Tuesday night but you will complain that there is never anything to do in Troy. An amazing effort tonight by this team. They could have quit at halftime, but did just the opposite. As for the fairweather fans, well at least they are consistent through all sports.
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Post by Troystet on Jan 7, 2016 21:06:34 GMT -6
TMTDM beating Jeremy Holloway 19-16...unfortunately other UAB-Atlanta player score additional 22 point. Also, Ho recognize that UAB-Atlanta still play in gym with high school scoreboard. Kind of look like Sartain - no wonder they win. Also, TV announcer do everything but laugh at TMTDM. Have no idea what happen to this team. They might win 3 or 4 conference game and not make tournament or do every team get invite? It like this team not have pulse. No sense complaining. The same group accepts mediocrity and embraces and defends it. If you don't support mediocrity you are a fair weather fan.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Jan 7, 2016 21:16:32 GMT -6
Give credit where do...just not show up for 2nd half to play. That 1st half worse half of basketball in Troy basketball history. But still TMTDM loose another conference game. And Varnado was complete no-show.
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Post by Hemi Man on Jan 7, 2016 21:19:50 GMT -6
Give credit where do...just not show up for 2nd half to play. That 1st half worse half of basketball in Troy basketball history. But still TMTDM loose another conference game. And Varnado was complete no-show. Propably to be expected out of a freshman with a lot of potential. He's likely to have a few clunkers early in his career.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Jan 7, 2016 22:25:45 GMT -6
Yes you are all mini John Woodens. I just watched a Troy team play their butts off again and lose by 3 on the road to a team that won a few games in the big dance last year. Im gonna guess most of you didn't buy tickets to watch the Globetrotters Tuesday night but you will complain that there is never anything to do in Troy. Hopefully Globetrotters not schedule to play TMTDM? And Mr. Ho hope it get plenty of fan at game too. He once have smae flight with Globetrotter team - there are like four or five of them BTW.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Jan 7, 2016 22:49:38 GMT -6
I'm shocked Troy was able to come back after being down 20+ points. BUT... once again, free throws helped them lose in the end. Going only 18 of 27 at the free throw line is again unacceptable. GSU hit almost 90% of their free throws. I have a feeling the women's team would take the men to the shed. The women shot 84% at free throws today. They shoot from the same distance, on the same court as the men... yet the men can only shoot 66% Tell me what's wrong with that picture... So I'm going to ask all of you... is it a talent issue? Do we have a bunch of players that can't shoot the ball? Or is our coaching staff so bad that they can't improve the play of this team? It's one or the other. Person and Varnado have been the only consistent players.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Jan 7, 2016 22:54:25 GMT -6
I'm shocked Troy was able to come back after being down 20+ points. BUT... once again, free throws helped them lose in the end. Going only 18 of 27 at the free throw line is again unacceptable. GSU hit almost 90% of their free throws. I have a feeling the women's team would take the men to the shed. The women shot 84% at free throws today. They shoot from the same distance, on the same court as the men... yet the men can only shoot 66% Tell me what's wrong with that picture... So I'm going to ask all of you... is it a talent issue? Do we have a bunch of players that can't shoot the ball? Or is our coaching staff so bad that they can't improve the play of this team? It's one or the other. Person and Varnado have been the only consistent players. My guess - and only a guess - would be yes, it's in the coaching and development, not the recruiting, but I also get the feeling that there's something in the culture of the program that's holding them back as well.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Jan 7, 2016 23:00:46 GMT -6
I also think it should be noted... Chanda Rigby took over a team that went 12-17, 5-25, and 2-26 in its previous three years before she arrived, and in her third season being coach produced a 20-win team that went to the WBI.
She took over a team that was thin on talent and true athletes, and look at what she's done up to this point. Comparatively, I'd say Cunningham took over a more talented mens team than what Rigby took over from the women's team.
How much longer are we going to make excuses folks?
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Jan 7, 2016 23:03:18 GMT -6
What has given you that feeling? Just curious.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Jan 7, 2016 23:28:49 GMT -6
What has given you that feeling? Just curious. I'm not quite sure. I don't think there's a problem with Xs and Os, although basketball isn't my main thing. I don't think the problem is talent. So to me, that leaves coaching (i.e. training) and development, and the culture. It's obvious that something is lacking in one area, otherwise they would be hitting more FTs. I think that deep down they just lack confidence. They try hard, which is commendable to them and the coaches, but I don't know if they ever expect to win. But like I said, this is all opinion. I could be be way off.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Jan 7, 2016 23:31:56 GMT -6
So Maestri ran the program in to the ground by bringing in JUCO after JUCO.
Coach C brings in high school kids, and y'all are pissed because he isn't winning fast enough.
I'm sure glad you folks don't get to be on the hiring/firing committies.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Jan 8, 2016 0:33:31 GMT -6
So Maestri ran the program in to the ground by bringing in JUCO after JUCO. Coach C brings in high school kids, and y'all are pissed because he isn't winning fast enough. I'm sure glad you folks don't get to be on the hiring/firing committies. He's been bringing in HS recruits for three years. Pray tell, how many years are you going to give him a free pass?
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Post by Hemi Man on Jan 8, 2016 3:01:44 GMT -6
For the life of me I don't understand why the athletic department goes through the trouble of conducting coaching searches. There's a handful of people here with the answers in all sports.
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Post by saintflorian on Jan 8, 2016 6:09:20 GMT -6
I also think it should be noted... Chanda Rigby took over a team that went 12-17, 5-25, and 2-26 in its previous three years before she arrived, and in her third season being coach produced a 20-win team that went to the WBI. She took over a team that was thin on talent and true athletes, and look at what she's done up to this point. Comparatively, I'd say Cunningham took over a more talented mens team than what Rigby took over from the women's team. How much longer are we going to make excuses folks? The professional Troy Fan Excuse Club can do it almost to infinity. For them any coach could be caught on camera lighting kittens and puppies on fire and they would make excuses for him and not hold him accountable. There are some coaching issues here, that is is apparent. But unless this team goes in the absolute tank PC should get another year, but will need to win the conference or make it to a tournament. Otherwise cut bait and move on.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Jan 8, 2016 8:50:37 GMT -6
I've said it before. A coach should get a minimum of 5 years.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Jan 8, 2016 8:51:51 GMT -6
I'm not expecting to be winning the conference in year 3. But I do expect to see atleast some improvement by year 3 and we have not yet.
And I'm tired of people bringing up maestri as the excuse. That's 4 years ago. We have had plenty of time to see atleast SOME improvement and not sitting in last place.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Jan 8, 2016 8:55:42 GMT -6
I also think it should be noted... Chanda Rigby took over a team that went 12-17, 5-25, and 2-26 in its previous three years before she arrived, and in her third season being coach produced a 20-win team that went to the WBI. She took over a team that was thin on talent and true athletes, and look at what she's done up to this point. Comparatively, I'd say Cunningham took over a more talented mens team than what Rigby took over from the women's team. How much longer are we going to make excuses folks? I partially agree with you on the Rigby takeover. Here is a very little known fact about the team she inherited. ABK was signed by Michael Murphy, yes possibly the best female hoops player in Troy history was signed by Coach Murph during his worst years. So Rigby inherited ABK, Sarah McAppion and she brought in Jo Harden who was one of the best and only played two years. Cunningham took over a team with not one single high school player and he had to run off a few, I think his first year resulted in two players who stepped on the floor the year before. Next year is a good year to start questioning Cunningham. We are all in agreement that free throws are a HUGE problem and need to be corrected, that part is unacceptable. I'm glad to see all of this basketball discussion.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Jan 8, 2016 9:01:49 GMT -6
I'm not expecting to be winning the conference in year 3. But I do expect to see atleast some improvement by year 3 and we have not yet. And I'm tired of people bringing up maestri as the excuse. That's 4 years ago. We have had plenty of time to see atleast SOME improvement and not sitting in last place. So watching this team play this year, you have seen no improvement, seriously? Are you watching the same games I'm seeing? Don't get me wrong, a loss is a loss but you can't say this team is not better. This time last year we had 4 losses in double digits, this year just 1 to UAB. Again, close losses are not wins, but they are signs of a team that is improving and full of young players.
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Post by Hemi Man on Jan 8, 2016 9:20:01 GMT -6
I'm not expecting to be winning the conference in year 3. But I do expect to see atleast some improvement by year 3 and we have not yet. And I'm tired of people bringing up maestri as the excuse. That's 4 years ago. We have had plenty of time to see atleast SOME improvement and not sitting in last place. If you're speaking in terms of just wins and losses then there is no improvement. I'm guessing you have not watched this team at all, and you really have no idea how they look of the court.
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Post by Troystet on Jan 8, 2016 20:38:09 GMT -6
I'm not expecting to be winning the conference in year 3. But I do expect to see atleast some improvement by year 3 and we have not yet. And I'm tired of people bringing up maestri as the excuse. That's 4 years ago. We have had plenty of time to see atleast SOME improvement and not sitting in last place. If you're speaking in terms of just wins and losses then there is no improvement. I'm guessing you have not watched this team at all, and you really have no idea how they look of the court. Aren't coaches judged on wins and losses? I've never read a story on a coaches firing that didn't include his record
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