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Post by Spiritual Trojan on Oct 3, 2015 20:21:35 GMT -6
USA's MVP Brandon Silvers
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Post by trojanempire on Oct 3, 2015 20:29:34 GMT -6
That was ridiculous. Even with my limited coaching experience, I knew Burks was getting the ball on the crucial plays.
Throwing 3 picks right at USA defenders won't get it done either.
We will be lucky to win 4 this year because USA may be better than us but they aren't very good.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 3, 2015 20:32:02 GMT -6
USA's MVP Brandon Silvers If he isn't getting the job done why not try Tidwell. Scoring 18 points against a average opponent won't get the job done.
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Post by trojanempire on Oct 3, 2015 20:35:28 GMT -6
USA's MVP Brandon Silvers If he isn't getting the job done why not try Tidwell. Scoring 18 points against a average opponent won't get the job done. Playing favorites perhaps? I don't know, but I do know that if this continues, 4 wins will be a miracle. I thought this was supposed to be an air raid offense that pushed the tempo. Where's the tempo?
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Post by Spiritual Trojan on Oct 3, 2015 20:42:39 GMT -6
If he isn't getting the job done why not try Tidwell. Scoring 18 points against a average opponent won't get the job done. Playing favorites perhaps? I don't know, but I do know that if this continues, 4 wins will be a miracle. I thought this was supposed to be an air raid offense that pushed the tempo. Where's the tempo? Maybe they need to borrow Dr. Beat from SOTS?
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Post by trojanempire on Oct 3, 2015 20:50:38 GMT -6
Playing favorites perhaps? I don't know, but I do know that if this continues, 4 wins will be a miracle. I thought this was supposed to be an air raid offense that pushed the tempo. Where's the tempo? Maybe they need to borrow Dr. Beat from SOTS? At this point, I'm willing to try anything
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Post by Spiritual Trojan on Oct 3, 2015 20:52:11 GMT -6
I think Neal Brown will pull it together, there is just still A LOT of work left to do especially on the offense.
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Post by troynubs on Oct 3, 2015 20:54:36 GMT -6
All I heard about was this air raid offense, but have yet to see it. This idea of running it and giving it to Burkes everytime is a lil sad.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 3, 2015 20:55:21 GMT -6
I think Neal Brown will pull it together, there is just still A LOT of work left to do especially on the offense. With the exception of a FCS opponent we have scored 21 points in the last two games. That won't cut it. I think they have to look at the qb first and make a decision
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Post by skeletor on Oct 3, 2015 20:57:30 GMT -6
That was a painful game to watch.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Oct 3, 2015 21:04:22 GMT -6
That was a painful game to watch. Yes...yes it was.
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Post by trojanempire on Oct 3, 2015 21:05:00 GMT -6
That was a painful game to watch. It absolutely was
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Post by trojanempire on Oct 3, 2015 21:14:59 GMT -6
Who calls the plays on offense?
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 3, 2015 21:18:37 GMT -6
Who calls the plays on offense? CNB
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Post by Redwaver on Oct 3, 2015 21:19:59 GMT -6
That was a painful game to watch. It absolutely was From my vantage point I saw three main things that contributed to the loss the greatest, 1. 3 interceptions (Brandin is just not where he needs to be after 21/2 years) 2. Inability to catch the ball in critical situations, 3. Predictability in play calling (Burke can't be everything every play.) I agree, where's the "Air Raid" offense with the purported speed?
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Post by Spiritual Trojan on Oct 3, 2015 21:30:08 GMT -6
I think Neal Brown will pull it together, there is just still A LOT of work left to do especially on the offense. With the exception of a FCS opponent we have scored 21 points in the last two games. That won't cut it. I think they have to look at the qb first and make a decision I agree, Silvers looked like a freshman qb tonight, bad reads, looking down the intended receiver, throwing to guys in double coverage, and getting gun shy in the pocket. I also remember on drive, in the 3rd I think, where Silvers put the ball on receives hands in three plays in a row only to have them drop the pass. There is a ton of work to do on offense.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Oct 3, 2015 21:45:17 GMT -6
Surely it's not that hard for yall to figure out why we aren't running an "air raid" offense...
Neal Brown doesn't have confidence in Brandon Silvers' control and consistency. You can see it by the play calling. Silvers gets rattled easily and isn't exactly the best at scrambling or making veteran decisions in those situations.
Neal also won't put in Tidwell or Pruitt because he doesn't want to mess up the flow of the game since the O-Line and WR's are used to Silvers.
The offensive play calling sucked in the important situations for the most part. Mix in a QB that stares down his receivers and you're BOUND for disaster.
I do commend the defense for staying strong the whole game. They did give up some big plays, but they stiffened up near the red zone. And yeah, they may have given up that 4th & 2 on the last play, but you can only ask so much from a defense that is constantly on the field because your offense sucks and your receivers have butter fingers.
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Post by trojanempire on Oct 3, 2015 21:54:55 GMT -6
Auburn was willing to switch QBs when their #1 couldn't get the job done. Will Troy do the same? I think we owe it to the seniors to give them every opportunity to be bowl eligible. I just don't think we can do it with our current #1. Thoughts?
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 3, 2015 21:58:04 GMT -6
Why did we give it to Burks so much? I just don't understand that play calling.
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Post by discophobia on Oct 3, 2015 22:06:50 GMT -6
Is Pruitt still on the team, that guy has just vanished. I know he took a couple of snaps against NC State but after being one of the very, very few bright spots last season he is getting no love from CNB. Something needs to give, I kept thinking about last years game against South when people in the stands were yelling....put in Tidwell and LB stayed with Silvers, does he have some dirt on LB and CNB because his play is not where many people me included thought he would be at this point in his career.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Oct 3, 2015 22:10:18 GMT -6
1) Silvers didn't look good at all. Poor decisions, poor throws, lack of pocket presence 2) Defensively, we are improved. They did a fine job. 3) We must recruit some size in the interior lines. We were at least 20-25#/man undersized across the front and it limited our ability to control the line of scrimmage. 4) Most importantly (I think) there was no "aw shucks" after the game. In his post game interview, CNB was blunt about our problems. He said we weren't disciplined, we had too many penalties, too many turnovers, missed signals, didn't pay attention to details. He was very complimentary of the defense and special teams but he made it clear the offense wasn't good and that he wasn't happy. I expect we will see improvement or we will see personnel changes.
It is hard to be patient but we have a big hole to climb out of and we must do it one game at a time.
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Post by trojanempire on Oct 3, 2015 22:13:10 GMT -6
What's it going to take for Tidwell to get a shot? I think we have enough of a sample size with the current #1 to know it ain't working.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 4, 2015 5:30:37 GMT -6
Surely it's not that hard for yall to figure out why we aren't running an "air raid" offense... Neal Brown doesn't have confidence in Brandon Silvers' control and consistency. You can see it by the play calling. Silvers gets rattled easily and isn't exactly the best at scrambling or making veteran decisions in those situations. Neal also won't put in Tidwell or Pruitt because he doesn't want to mess up the flow of the game since the O-Line and WR's are used to Silvers. The offensive play calling sucked in the important situations for the most part. Mix in a QB that stares down his receivers and you're BOUND for disaster. I do commend the defense for staying strong the whole game. They did give up some big plays, but they stiffened up near the red zone. And yeah, they may have given up that 4th & 2 on the last play, but you can only ask so much from a defense that is constantly on the field because your offense sucks and your receivers have butter fingers. What ?? Don't want to put in another QB because you don't want to mess up the flow of the game ? Ummmm, that is dumb. So all the INT being thrown doesn't mess up the flow of the game ? You have to try other options when your #1 is utterly failing.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Oct 4, 2015 6:38:45 GMT -6
[/quote] What ?? Don't want to put in another QB because you don't want to mess up the flow of the game ? Ummmm, that is dumb. So all the INT being thrown doesn't mess up the flow of the game ? You have to try other options when your #1 is utterly failing. [/quote]
That's generally what happens. The players aren't used to the man signal caller being Pruitt or Tidwell, so some coaches think it can throw off the offense and cause more penalties and such. Example was the only play where Pruitt came in and Troy had a penalty on an o-lineman.
But Silvers looked terrible and needed to be sat down. Give Tidwell or Pruitt a chance to lead the offense.
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Post by psychotrojan07 on Oct 4, 2015 6:43:53 GMT -6
I trust that the staff makes the right decision on when/if to pull the plug on Silvers. My head scratcher of the game was the fact that Flakes got 1 touch that I can remember and it was a 20 yard TD run. Then never touched the ball again. That doesn't make sense to me. It seems like he does good things consistently when he gets the ball so why not rest Burks and give Flakes a few more touches? I suppose it's much easier to second guess as the arm chair coach though. As frustrating as that game was, I feel better about the leadership in place. There will continue to be growing pains but look at recruiting alone this year compared to last and its easy to see improvement. Hope these commits hang on till signing day!
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