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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 15, 2014 11:45:04 GMT -6
Still my #1 choice.
With everything going on at UAB and a supposed announcement to take place at the end of the year regarding if they will continue UAB football after 2016... Bill Clark has pubically not been happy with this situation. Stating he worries about his job security...
With all this taking place. Hopefully Hartwell has contacted him to gage his interest.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 15, 2014 12:10:00 GMT -6
He's paid 600k at UAB... With everything going on at UAB I would doubt they would try and counter whatever we offered.... He might come if we threw 700k at him... Plus we offer job security
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Post by Mr. Ho on Nov 15, 2014 12:19:55 GMT -6
He's paid 600k at UAB... With everything going on at UAB I would doubt they would try and counter whatever we offered.... He might come if we threw 700k at him... Plus we offer job security TMTDM would owe UA's B team $1.2 million to buy him out of the remaining two years of his contract. Sorry, it's not going to happen.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 15, 2014 12:22:52 GMT -6
Anyone got 1.2 million bucks laying around?
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Post by Mr. Ho on Nov 15, 2014 12:31:46 GMT -6
Anyone got 1.2 million bucks laying around? Mr. Ho do, but he spending it on new Mr. Ho Atrium at Stadium...The Red Wave have special roller food cart in there sell over-price taquitos, hot sausage and coffee. Mr. Ho also bring back Wilson Bar-b-que there.
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Post by gimpy on Nov 15, 2014 13:28:05 GMT -6
He's paid 600k at UAB... With everything going on at UAB I would doubt they would try and counter whatever we offered.... He might come if we threw 700k at him... Plus we offer job security TMTDM would owe UA's B team $1.2 million to buy him out of the remaining two years of his contract. Sorry, it's not going to happen. His initial contract is for only 3 years which is very unusual. He was short 3 years of being vested in the state retirement system when he signed. If Clark insisted on 3 years because he did not want any impairments to moving on, I agree. It is $1.2 mil. If UAB insisted on 3 years, a good case could be made for bad faith on UAB's part since they will not say they are keeping the program beyond 2016. They also have no OC games scheduled beyond 2016. Coincidence? If discussions were being held within UAB about doing away with football before Clark's hiring it would come out during discovery if a suit was filed by either party. I do not know who his agent is but they seem to have been asleep at the wheel. I believe the later is the case. He needs two years to be vested. He could stay at what appears to be a 2 year program (try recruiting to that) or possibly go to Troy for at least two years building his resume. I predicted that UAB would be bowl eleigible this year when they hired Clark and they will probably beat SMU. If he is hired by Troy I would predict at least 7 wins next year. You may not like everything about it though as he filled immediate needs at UAB with JUCO's and turned a lot of offers into gray shirt offers. However he has not had any discipline problems that I am aware of. He manages that very well.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 15, 2014 13:33:20 GMT -6
TMTDM would owe UA's B team $1.2 million to buy him out of the remaining two years of his contract. Sorry, it's not going to happen. His initial contract is for only 3 years which is very unusual. He was short 3 years of being vested in the state retirement system when he signed. If Clark insisted on 3 years because he did not want any impairments to moving on, I agree. It is $1.2 mil. If UAB insisted on 3 years, a good case could be made for bad faith on UAB's part since they will not say they are keeping the program beyond 2016. They also have no OC games scheduled beyond 2016. Coincidence? If discussions were being held within UAB about doing away with football before Clark's hiring it would come out during discovery if a suit was filed by either party. I do not know who his agent is but they seem to have been asleep at the wheel. I believe the later is the case. He needs two years to be vested. He could stay at what appears to be a 2 year program (try recruiting to that) or possibly go to Troy for at least two years building his resume. I predicted that UAB would be bowl eleigible this year when they hired Clark and they will probably beat SMU. If he is hired by Troy I would predict at least 7 wins next year. You may not like everything about it though as he filled immediate needs at UAB with JUCO's and turned a lot of offers into gray shirt offers. However he has not had any discipline problems that I am aware of. He manages that very well. I wanted the man before he left JSU last year... You know any coach that can get UAB to 6 wins is golden! Especially in the first year!!!
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Post by Troystet on Nov 15, 2014 13:37:19 GMT -6
We missed several great coaches last year. UAB got one and Georgis Southern grabbed a great one.
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 15, 2014 14:01:04 GMT -6
We missed several great coaches last year. UAB got one and Georgis Southern grabbed a great one. Yep, and the year before that. Which year should we have fired Larry?
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Post by Troystet on Nov 15, 2014 14:36:42 GMT -6
We missed several great coaches last year. UAB got one and Georgis Southern grabbed a great one. Yep, and the year before that. Which year should we have fired Larry? There is no coach in the country that would have kept his job the last 4 years except LB, that much is a fact.
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Post by gimpy on Nov 15, 2014 14:45:38 GMT -6
We missed several great coaches last year. UAB got one and Georgis Southern grabbed a great one. When he started with the facilities excuse. Yes we need them but you play the hand you are dealt. It is OK to push for new facilities but do not make the current ones an excuse.
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 15, 2014 14:52:36 GMT -6
Yep, and the year before that. Which year should we have fired Larry? There is no coach in the country that would have kept his job the last 4 years except LB, that much is a fact. Well, my question was, "which year would YOU have fired Larry" were you the AD? After his first losing season? Second? Which?
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Post by Troystet on Nov 15, 2014 14:57:03 GMT -6
There is no coach in the country that would have kept his job the last 4 years except LB, that much is a fact. Well, my question was, "which year would YOU have fired Larry" were you the AD? After his first losing season? Second? Which? We don't fire coaches at Troy. They resign or retire
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Post by gimpy on Nov 15, 2014 15:28:31 GMT -6
Bill Clark is our next next head coach, IMO. No inside stuff or anything. And no, Probst will not be the OC. CBC will bring his entire staff to Troy, that is not negotiable. "There are recruits de-committing because of the speculation. There are former players asking him about the program's future. There are doubts Clark has in his own mind about where he will be working in a month or so." www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solomon/24806444/is-the-alabama-board-of-trustees-finally-ready-to-kill-uab-footballDone deal IMHO. And Clark needs a new agent. Just found this.... It didn't really take a lot of hammering from either side," Clark's agent, Dennis Cordell of Coaches Inc., said. "We were aware of the current financial situation. We wanted to make sure as long as Bill does everything he can to win games. ... he's going to have a chance to really get things going. They want to win a national championship.
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Post by gimpy on Nov 15, 2014 15:30:00 GMT -6
There is no coach in the country that would have kept his job the last 4 years except LB, that much is a fact. Well, my question was, "which year would YOU have fired Larry" were you the AD? After his first losing season? Second? Which? 2013 at the latest. 2012 most likely.
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 15, 2014 15:30:44 GMT -6
Well, my question was, "which year would YOU have fired Larry" were you the AD? After his first losing season? Second? Which? We don't fire coaches at Troy. They resign or retire [br. My question was YOU not WE. Were YOU the AD when would YOU have told Larry you were going to recommend he be fired? You can't control the WE factor!
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 15, 2014 15:38:13 GMT -6
Well, my question was, "which year would YOU have fired Larry" were you the AD? After his first losing season? Second? Which? 2013 at the latest. 2012 most likely. I'm glad I never worked for you but then IF your timeline was applied to YOU on YOUR job I bet you would expect more patience and I bet you have less years in than Larry but im guessing! Ha ha ha! It's just all in fun anyway. With our opinions and $30.00 you can get inside info at Sisters any Sunday!:-)
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Post by gimpy on Nov 15, 2014 21:12:36 GMT -6
2013 at the latest. 2012 most likely. I'm glad I never worked for you but then IF your timeline was applied to YOU on YOUR job I bet you would expect more patience and I bet you have less years in than Larry but im guessing! Ha ha ha! It's just all in fun anyway. With our opinions and $30.00 you can get inside info at Sisters any Sunday!:-) I was speaking from an AD type position. I am not an AD. From a business perspective (business owner, which I am) 1 losing season/non profitable year would be it or sooner. I could care less how long someone worked for me.
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 16, 2014 6:59:52 GMT -6
I'm glad I never worked for you but then IF your timeline was applied to YOU on YOUR job I bet you would expect more patience and I bet you have less years in than Larry but im guessing! Ha ha ha! It's just all in fun anyway. With our opinions and $30.00 you can get inside info at Sisters any Sunday!:-) I was speaking from an AD type position. I am not an AD. From a business perspective (business owner, which I am) 1 losing season/non profitable year would be it or sooner. I could care less how long someone worked for me. [br But the point was how would YOU feel if YOU were the guy getting fired under your timelines, not as the guy doing the firing. If you had an employee who had given you 20 years of great work and dedication to YOUR BUSINESS and suddenly he had one or two years (your timeline) of poor results you fire him? Really?
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Post by crowhilltrojan on Nov 16, 2014 9:47:09 GMT -6
It's business. It's not family. I don't expect to sit across the table from him at Thanksgiving. I'd handle it much the same way as gimpy would.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 16, 2014 10:15:55 GMT -6
Well, my question was, "which year would YOU have fired Larry" were you the AD? After his first losing season? Second? Which? We don't fire coaches at Troy. They resign or retire We are a classy university when it comes to that.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 16, 2014 10:17:57 GMT -6
These type of threads are highly entertaining.
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Post by troyjan95 on Nov 16, 2014 10:58:47 GMT -6
I keep hearing the name Tommie Robinson. True or not true!
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 16, 2014 11:09:56 GMT -6
We don't fire coaches at Troy. They resign or retire We are a classy university when it comes to that. I agree... Although Blakeney was probably forced to retire. But still the best way to go about it than rather the university coming out saying he was fired.
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Post by gimpy on Nov 16, 2014 11:14:53 GMT -6
I was speaking from an AD type position. I am not an AD. From a business perspective (business owner, which I am) 1 losing season/non profitable year would be it or sooner. I could care less how long someone worked for me. [br But the point was how would YOU feel if YOU were the guy getting fired under your timelines, not as the guy doing the firing. If you had an employee who had given you 20 years of great work and dedication to YOUR BUSINESS and suddenly he had one or two years (your timeline) of poor results you fire him? Really? I'm sure I would feel bad if I was fired. I would not give an employee one or two years of poor performance before I fired them. The exact time frame would depend on the circumstances but it would be less than a year for sure.
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